As a German, his speeches are not dumb or incoherent as Trump's, but they are really that good either. Basically constantly screaming and a very weird cadence.

Messagewise, it's pretty close, though. MAGA and Deutschland über alles are not that different. Actually, making Germany as great as it's been before Versailles was kind of the entire point of the Nazi party (and of course The Jews™ were responsible for all of that ).

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

In his time, Hitler was ridiculed for his weird looks and barely coherent speeches. It was thought he would be ineffectual and easily controlled by more seasoned politicians when he was allowed to become cancellor (he only got about 35 percent of the popular vote but managed to build a conservative coalition). To underestimate his and his party's plan to dismantle democracy, which was plainly laid out in Mein Kampf, was a grave mistake of course. More info here: https://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-frank/go-in-depth/germany-1933-democracy-dictatorship/

[-] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

America first is actually another slogan of theirs so you don't even have to go that far to draw the comparison

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hitler was described as a charismatic and compelling speaker. That’s historically how he was able to capture so much of the German audience. Only once he had a strong following did he begin attacking the BBC as “Lügenpresse” (fake news), isolating Germans from trusting in international media.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah but that's how some people describe Trump. I can't fathom how one could listen to him speak without getting the impression that he's a narcissistic moron but that's how it goes I guess.

I think that begs the question of whether or not many felt that way about Hitler in 1930s Germany. I'm guessing he was well spoken enough that even those that disliked his message didn't have the same opinion of him that I do of Trump. They likely saw him as a threat and someone to fear for his ability to sway others to his cause. Trump seems successful largely in spite of himself which is odd, but again I can't see anything other than a clown with little man syndrome so maybe they are successful for largely the same reasons. They do have a lot of similarities. I just have to imagine Hitler was more cunning and less sniveling.

[-] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Maybe "begs a question" but not "begs the question".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Lots of people thought Adolf was a clown and an idiot. It didn't really stop him from doing lots of lots of damage.

Same for the Nazi Party, really. It was filled with incompetence and idiocy.

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