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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 667 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Now watch the Republican Party of “Law and Order”nominate a convicted felon to be the next president

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 283 points 6 months ago (7 children)

You have to understand that this isn't ironic to them. To them, this was not a legitimate trial and trumped up charges, if you'll pardon the pun.

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 128 points 6 months ago (8 children)

The guy behind me that watches fox news all day because "he needs something to help him focus" immediately started spouting fox talking points as soon as the verdict was read. My younger coworkers were like, "no way, that's crazy" to all his bs. I just had to say, "no that's not true. I read the jury instructions and they don't say that." He moved onto insisting there was no evidence and Cohen perjured himself and at that point I was already on my way out the door.

He's Gen x, a landlord, new York exile, classic gabagool. Ugh.

[–] deadsenator@lemmy.ca 78 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Gen Xer here that does not share your co-worker's moronic view. Lock him up!

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 28 points 6 months ago

Boomer here raising a toast to the jurors!

[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Gen X here too, Lock him up!

I think most of GenX were just crushed by the boomers, you just have to listen to GenX music to see how fatalistic and powerless they were. When Millenials came around, they started to have enough distance to the boomers to do their own thing. And i really have the highest of hopes for GenZ and beyond.

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey, aside from the moral question practically we can't afford to lock up every moron.

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[–] noxy@yiffit.net 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'd complain to HR that that guy is making the workplace hostile, if not outright tell him to shut the fuck up, but I get that that's not a safe option at a lot of workplaces

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

He's a job hopper and I don't expect him to be there more than a year or so longer. He mostly keeps his dumb shit to himself but I guess if you're gonna spout off then the day your orange turd gets convicted of felonies is a logical one.

[–] rektdeckard@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wrong. Talk to him every day. Hang out on some weekends, and become friends. Plant subtle notions of egalitarianism through your friendship and generosity. Ask him thought questions about his beliefs, but not in an accusatory manner. Teach him to actually think for himself, to keep an open mind, to seek evidence rather than faith to form convictions. Slowly show him by example what it means to be a good person who cares for their fellow human beings.

Then you plant some drugs on him while at work, and call HR with your suspicions.

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 6 points 6 months ago

You really had me there for a minute!

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Last week I had to remind my parents that FBI agents are cops and pretty much always are authorized to use deadly force...

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

I asked my right wing mother if she had heard the news. She asked me if I thought the gop was finally going to pick another candidate. I like my mother.

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[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 94 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Maybe the phrase “trumped up charges” will have new meaning after today

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 77 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's like when you're guilty of 34 felonies but still pretend you're innocent to scam idiots

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

An image for your enjoyment

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

You could say his lawyers really trumped the case.

[–] shovingleopardnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 46 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

All the other kids with the trumped up charges better run better run faster than my verdicts

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I'm hoping the "playing the trump card" will morph into meaning you're a lying, cheating piece of trash that should be taken outside and tarred and feathered.

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Trumped up charges, meaning lots and lots of verifiable and provable charges.

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That's because his supporters worship him as a new messiah and cannot conceive of him having actually committed a crime. Or they don't care if he did or not.

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They don't care if he did. I'd argue most of his supporters in the party (Mike Johnson for example) know that he is a horrible person but will support him because he has energized a dormant portion of the voting population that can help them to gain and hold power. Trump himself isn't even that bad, he's a useful idiot who gives immense power to far right organizations like the heritage foundation.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They view him as an imperfect tool of the lord

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

He's a tool alright

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That is a chill-inducing phrase.

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

AKA false prophet

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I know these people, I was one before I learned better, should they gain the authority they seek it will be worse than you think

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

dormant portion of the voting population

The South shall rise again against the War of Northern aggression!!!

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Yeah. If the messiah did it then it must be ok so it's the court that's wrong.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

To his supporters there isn't a legitimate trial.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Right, there can't be a legitimate trial because everything is "politicized" and "a witch hunt".

Weird how they can't get DAs to bring charges against Hillary or Hunter though.

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[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 79 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Don't forget their party of "family values" and "religious morals" candidate who slept with a porn star while his wife was recovering from giving birth to their child

[–] Tja@programming.dev 25 points 6 months ago

And by having sex with a pornstar he was cheating on the playboy model he was cheating on his wife with.

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago
[–] sharkaccident@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

And he raw dogged.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 73 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They were locker room felonies.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You know, on balance though, I think I'm glad that being a convicted felon doesn't preclude one from being elected president. I've gone back and forth on it a lot, but I think it is for the best.

[–] lqdrchrd@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 6 months ago

Absolutely it is, see Nelson Mandela for instance

[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Can you elaborate? My knee-jerk reaction is to be against it, but I haven’t thought about it a whole lot and I’d be interested to know why you have decided on the opposite.

[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It means if there was an actual politically motivated prosecution, that wouldn't stop someone from winning. ie. If Trump had managed to make some fake charge against Biden stick in 2020, if the people still wanted Biden to be president, he could be.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think it's a powerful statement that - despite all the structural checks & balances and systems of appeal - we consider political charges and kangaroo courts a realistic possibility. It's not just Alito's flags - this is a long simmering loss of faith.

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

In this case it seems easy to be against it because a widely unpopular candidate is the one being prosecuted.

However, allowing felons to run for office precludes the ability for the government to silence political dissidents by making up laws/falsifying evidence that they can be imprisoned for.

The risk of a Trump presidency is still on the table, but the US can avoid situations like what happened to Navalny in Russia as well.

In the 1920 election, Eugene Debs campaigned as the socialist nominee for president from prison, having been imprisoned for advocating draft dodging. That is the sort of candidate I would still support, even from behind bars.

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