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First off, I’m truly asking this in good faith, please be nice but correct me too on anything I saw that’s stupid.

As an anarchism, my ideal solution for Palestine is a no-state solution where people are allowed to move freely, interact freely, and work being done on both sides to heal from the decades of conflict and live in one society.

Now you folks (I love you folks) aren’t all anarchists and I’d love to hear your thoughts. Sometimes I’ll see people saying that all Israelis should just move somewhere else, but I think that’s really dumb. Both sides seem to be operating on the assumption that the other group will leave, which in my opinion is just as racist thinking as saying all the Palestinians should just leave.

So what are the tankie’s (/j) thoughts.

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[-] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

the idea of not having a state is a very silly one. If the palestinians win tomorrow what do you think happens, do the fascist zionists all immediately leave? No! They will stay and fight, just like how the nazis continued to terrorise civilians in east germany. Equally the United states and its lackeys will continue to try and dismantle the reunified palestine, as joe biden says "if israel did not exist, we would create one". So what is a state, a state is the machinary through which one class subordinates another. Are there multiple opposing classes in palestine? Yes, at least two, indiginous palestinians and zionists (if you object to this definition of classes please refer to losurdos "class strugle"). If the palestinians do not form a state to subordinate the zionists (in some way) then, and this is the important part, the zionists will simply reform the state of israel. A no state solution where everyone heals sounds great, if you dont remember that one side needs to heal much more than the other, and the other is actively trying to kill every palestinian and will continue to do so as long as they exist, as is inherent in the setller class position.

I recommend this edited speech excerpt by parenti also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQUEUM0t1y8

[-] metaltoilet@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I should have made it more clear that I don’t believe that that is at all realistic currently.

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