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Leftypedia imploded. (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

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Update: they have ascertained that Parabola was Wisconcom lmao. In that light, if correct, it's more of a wrecker doing what he does than the project failing. We still don't have a lot of info though. They've written about it here: https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Leftypedia:Community_hub

Earlier today, the new rendition of Leftypedia finally imploded. Going off the block list, it's a real mess.

Leftypedia was brought back from its last incarnation in early 2023. If you remember (or not), it had issues with Wisconcom then who latched onto it. The problem is because they had no active admins and couldn't find them, they couldn't ban him indefinitely.

Eventually, they did find new admins who kicked the project back into gear, or at least they tried to.

Earlier today though, it seems there has been a split and one of the admins (Parabola) basically banned all the others as well as several other users. Where it gets weird is that another admin (Aussig) then banned Parabola, but didn't undo the bans Parabola issued. Aussig also banned me and Forte's account, which we used back when Wisconcom was on there, for "ideological deviations", but Aussig calls themselves a Marxist-Leninist on their user page.

From what I understand there was a split between the different tendencies. So anyway that's how the "left unity" wiki is going lol sorry but this is funny.

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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I don't follow this sort of drama and i am perfectly happy that way. But when I hear about this sort of stuff i do wonder how it is that i have never heard of these sorts of problems in or around Lemmygrad. It's not as if we all agree on everything, i know there are definitely some ideological as well as tactical disagreements now and then, but for some reason it never devolves into this kind of sectarian drama.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 5 months ago

I think it is many factors:

The actually existing project(s) that a community latches onto affect the community culture. Imagine us trying to be sectarian with each other when our supported factions are constantly making the news for making alliances between completely opposed ideologies. This also affects the liberals, which is why even they aren't too sectarian.
Any real project will be full of imperfections, and no faction will appeal to you 100%. If you can already tolerate this for the projects that actually impact the world, you can tolerate it for the random internet users.
Ultras and Anarchists are united/defined mostly on the basis of hating AES and revisionists. This does not build any strong community unity, or even sensible theory. Instead, it builds the mentality of accusing the other members of being too much like their boogeymen.

[–] The_Filthy_Commie@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 5 months ago

I've noticed that, too. I think it's thanks to the mods and us having an actual line, like a direction that is consistent, coherent and adjusts itself as events unfold. Because we're not dogmatic. What is that line? What Comrade, darkcalling mentioned down here, the unity of Marxists. We're clear on what we think, and new people either come in already clearheaded or they slowly see what we're like, and join in. We have good people, and I mean that. I come here to learn and laugh everyday. I guess we're just that cool, that we don't start beefs with each other or with our Hexbear friends.

[–] PoisonIvy@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There are no ultras or anarchists (that I know of) who are regulars on grad and in my xp that umbrella is the most drama-prone

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago

i think its mainly dogmatism contrasted to pragmatism.