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Breadtube if it didn't suck.

Post videos you genuinely enjoy and want to share, duh. Celebrate the diversity of interests shared by chapochatters by posting a deep dive into Venetian kelp farming, I dunno. Also media criticism, bite-sized versions of left-wing theory, all the stuff you expected. But I am curious about that kelp farming thing now that you mentioned it.

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There is a cytube that you can paste videos into and watch with whoever happens to be around. It's open submission unless there's something important to commandeer it with at the time.

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[–] iie@hexbear.net 47 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I guess flooding every social media platform with misogynistic propaganda has worked pretty well

[–] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Tried to use Tiktok a while back, had to stop after a week because once the algorithm "realized" I was a man it would not stop sending me Joe Rogan clips, thirst traps of young women, and other incredibly misogynist (and racist, and any other sort of reactionary) content. It was pretty fucking heinous. Lasering that into young minds that can't defend themselves is a deeply upsetting crime against humanity.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

YouTube shorts is the same, no matter how many times you try to filter it out, you get that kind of shit, or daily wire propaganda. It's incessant

[–] pooh@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I never got that with TikTok, but youtube shorts is almost always trying to feed me some right wing bullshit. My TikTok on the other hand is almost all trans women and stuff like makeup tutorials (and some cute pups), and it was like this was long before I realized I was trans.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tbh I don't use tiktok much, just to open links people send.

[–] pooh@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

That might be why some people are having issues with TikTok. You do have to train it a bit, but once you like a few videos it will start to shift. I think that’s part of the reason why TikTok got so popular in the first place, since it really does get good at providing what you want to see the more you use it.

[–] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yes it so much worse. Even if it's not all that shit, it won't stop feeding me annoying John Green videos no matter how many times I tell it to stop lol

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago
[–] duderium@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My tiktok feed is almost nothing but Palestinians begging for their lives.

[–] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

I wasn't involved in leftist politics at the time but even still I kept blocking/telling TikTok to stop sending me these videos and it would just never stop

[–] Ishmael@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Seriously, I have a roommate who is ostensibly a nice guy, never says anything sexist/racist or whatever, and our living situation involves a Black/indigenous woman. But I hear him listening to TikToks all the time that are just the most vile misogynist or weirdly tradtional viewpoints ("women, if you make dinner but your husband don't like it, what do you do as a good wife?" etc). I feel like he's probably not even choosing these toks, they're just unavoidable.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I feel like he's probably not even choosing these toks, they're just unavoidable.

My TikTok feed is full of communists, he's engaging with the content, and it's responding in kind.

[–] TheFinalCapitalist@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

swear to god tho your algo gets reset every so often if you engage with commie content regularly. my fyp will be good for like a week then all of a sudden its back to liberal/fascist content till i retrain the fuckin thing

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They have to keep testing their users with potential new content they may start liking so that the app stays new and refreshing and people keep coming back

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

I almost never get lib or fash stuff

[–] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In a communist utopia, if you wanted to watch trashy social media garbage while you take the train home after a long day you should be forced to hunt for it in one big alphabetical directory that looks like mid-‘90s Yahoo. Recommendation algorithms are inherently reactionary and after the revolution they must be abolished.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nah, just replace the current algorithms with ones that boost commies and suppress and ban reactionaries.

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

ban reactionaries but fuck algorithms

content is so homogenous at the moment

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

Your dissent has been recorded, and will be addressed after the revolution

[–] HexBeara@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Skill issue

Only tiktok adjacent that I have issues with is yt shorts. My algo is tism, trans, communist, gaymer, feminist, and black liberation, with a few thirst traps here and there. I'm a 30 y.o. hwite bisexual gaymer dude(?). And here's an example of what pops up on my fyp.

https://www.tiktok.com/@dimension20honey/video/7363700906333850923?

The only thing I can think of that might be screwing with his algorithm is gymtok maybe?

Edit: pretend like you didn't notice my poor opsec and you don't know what I'm talking about. Thanks 🙏

[–] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think for me it was probably that I liked watching sports clips. So it didn't matter how many times I tried to block reactionary shit fromy feed

[–] HexBeara@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah I definitely think that's the foot in the door for sure, fitness in general while good and having plenty of cool people in it, has plenty of toxic people in it, much in the same way gaming does(except I guess when tiktok can tell you're not straight?). sans-shrug

[–] Ishmael@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

Idk it might be because he does fuck with motivational/grindset sort of shit. He's also white. When I was on TikTok it just kept feeding me dancing Latina women because it knew I'm a male and I can speak Spanish lol. I successfully trained it to feed me MOSTLY stuff about life in rural China and music stuff but the garbage was always waiting to bubble to the surface

[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ishmael@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah I really feel like the app is kind of default shitty and then if you're a milquetoast white guy like him then the app just feeds you progressively more sexist right-wingy content because you're a white guy who doesn't critically engage with the content. It's like it only changes if you somehow signal you're non-white non-male

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

The sad thing is, you try pointing this out and they call you crazy, and then say the nebulous thing they call "the left" controls social media and media in general. We're so fucked.