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[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Can someone explain what vance related thing this is referencing?

[-] Pronell@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

He seems to be wearing heavy eyeliner that makes him vaguely resemble a raccoon.

[-] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Wow, I really hope that's not the joke. Men should be allowed to wear as much eyeliner as they want

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

He needs to go for the full Amy Winehouse wings.

[-] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah I really don't like people using that to make fun of him. I know it's just because it shows how hypocritical republicans are but it still comes off as attacking any man who wears makeup

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

comes off as attacking any man who wears makeup

Who are the other men being attacked by Democrats for this?

[-] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

By mocking a public figure for {trait} you create a toxic atmosphere for other people with {trait}. Just because you (justifiably) hate him doesn't make it okay to create that environment for others.

Obviously there are various degrees to this, but eyeliner? We're really gonna start enforcing outdated toxic masculine standards because it suits us now?

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

really gonna start enforcing outdated toxic masculine standards because it suits us now?

Not at all what's happening. Weaponizing bigotry against bigots is what's happening.

I would argue it's not at all genuine criticism but is instead highlighting for such a critic what that criticism is like to receive.

[-] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I understand that's the intention. But you're seeing it through a lens that already understands that, and aren't looking at the wider effects.

Edit: Also are you seriously arguing that it's okay to be homophobic/transphobic as long as your target is a homophobe/transphobe?

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Fair. Btw thank you for not going into attack mode about this. The civility here helps me see your point much more easily.

[-] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Thank you too, I think I might have got a little too feisty at points. I'm glad I managed to stay calm enough though ❤️

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I don't think you did. You wouldn't believe how many people will see a comment like mine and respond as though I've been openly and proudly bigoted. I can even calmly respond and tell them I meant nothing like that but usually they've already made up their mind.

It's a good thing to give people benefit of doubt by default. I don't always do it but it's really a lot easier to have an exchange of ideas when a party tries a little extra hard to be fair, which I got from you. Thanks again!

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Unless they're actively working to oppress anyone else who seems remotely "feminine" in any way. Which is the only reason he's getting made fun of for this.

[-] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I get that, but he's already got an odd disposition for upholstery and marine wildlife. We can do better than mocking his appearance. We, the left, are meant to be better than this

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I'm not in favor of harping on the makeup thing continually like how the "couch fucker" thing is being treated, but I did find it funny the first time I saw a meme about it. Sure, it's fair that we should stop making unfair low-blow (or just made up) jokes.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Many of the memes you're seeing are just made up. They're not necessarily referencing anything other than the fact that he's a weird guy.

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I'm aware but wasn't sure if there was a new vance related meme that I missed

(Plus only some of them are fully made up. Like the cat related ones are poking at his earlier comments)

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