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I like a lot of the stuff but the 2 minute chorus lines and the "end the song by way of a minute long fade out" is grating.
That said I see a lot of use of the word "overrated" in this thread. [Band] isn't overrated, you just don't like them. Like I don't like Bruce Springsteens music, but there's a reason why he's called The Boss.
The absolute worst is when the ending is the clear best part of the song, but the band doesn't know how to end it so they just fade it out. Fading out the climax of the song! Wtf
Also, and this is more a 70s/80s thing, very long solos in a song that's more of a dance bop. I am specifically looking at you Ian Dury and your song "Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick"
Looking at you Sunglasses at Night. I only recently discovered that there's a version that includes the full guitar solo, but that never gets radio play
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If it doesn't have a six minute long drum solo 75 seconds in to a three minute long song I don't want it.
"Hey kids wanna hear me make my guitar go weeeoweoweeeeooo for about two minutes"
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"Wanna hear me do it again?"
I am a solo hater
that's literally what overrated means
It literally doesn't. You can like something and still find it overrated, you can dislike something and find it underrated. These words refer to your view of the broader cultural valuation of something, not your personal tastes.
Saying "I don't like ramen" isn't the same as saying "ramen is overrated"
yes, it does. to say something is overrated is to acknowledge that the consensus is x and that you don't believe that it should be because you think that the majority of people have misjudged the thing in question as being better than it is. in other words, that you don't like it as much as most people.
just because you don't like the word "overrated' doesn't mean you can just define it out of existence lol
Yeah, that's not the same as disliking something. Just because both words indicate some negative quality doesn't mean they have same meaning. I also disagree about it being "better than it is". Overrated can refer to a lot of things - How important something is, how good it is, how influential it is, how approachable it is, and so on and so forth.
I don't think the word is overrated, I just think it's underrated to actually use the words for what they mean. Its overrated to use the word overrated when what you mean is that you don't like something.
"I like breaking bad, but I do think it's overrated" is a completely normal sentence.
in what context would you find it applicable to call something "overrated" if you don't believe that word is applicable when you're saying that you think a thing that is broadly considered to be good is actually bad? because I genuinely cannot conceive of another context in which the word "overrated' could be accurately used. from my perspective you sound like you've invented a completely incomprehensible topic to argue about because you think the word "overrated" sucks and it makes you feel superior to people who use it. it would be like if i suddenly decided that your use of the word "negative" is invalid, actually the only valid use of the word "negative" is the photography related noun, the word you mean to use is "bad"
That's not what you're saying when you're saying something is overrated. By your own definition you are saying it isn't as good as people say it is. By my definition it is saying something is less of a certain positive quality than people say it is. Neither of these definitions are the same as saying something is bad.
Who is the one inventing arguments here? I've never said the word overrated sucks and I have already answered this point in my previous reply.
I feel like you're projecting a lot of negative assumptions on to me based on nothing.
Except for the fact that "overrated" isn't a synonym for "I don't like it" or "bad".
You got an example at the very first thing I posted: "I don't like Bruce Springsteens music, but there is a reason he's called The Boss". I don't see why you're saying you can't fathom any sayings, when that's right there. Here's two more anyway.
"I like falafel, but I think it's overrated. So many people say it's their favourite food, which, like, it's good, but it's not that good"
"I know it's wayyy overrated, but my favourite series is Breaking Bad. It's not groundbreaking or anything, but I still like it."
These are completely rational sentences.
Starting off with a curt one-sentencer isn't really an invitation to have a discussion, most certainly not a good faith one. Following it up with unfounded assumptions doesn't really improve it. For the next time I recommend asking a question related to the thing you want to "investigate" instead.
I edit almost all my commens after I post them, to make the language clearer, which I, for some reason, find much easier after posting. However I stopped adding to the comments after you responded and each example was present before you responded. I've deleted a few sentences, fixed some formatting and added one byline after your response (and then this sentence here now).
You're being very hostile and condescending and I do not understand why. The responses were coherent before you responded as well. You've gotten your questions answered, but you choose to pretend you haven't in order to further an argument which you instill with increasingly aggressive language. I feel as though quite a lot of unfounded negativity is being projected onto me, and I do not appreciate it. I think you should log off.
I'm not going to read the rest of your response, because I can see you're going to continue this shitty behaviour.
Wait so I wrote out a long, thorough, serious comment laying out in good faith everything I understood about the conversation, our inability to understand each other, and what I was trying to get across in the first place and then went to bed. And then you come buy and go "I'm not reading all that, touch grass
" and apparently I'm the one who gets my comment removed for "bad faith" lmao
god the mods on this site fucking suck dude
Yeah that's definitely what happened.
Being reductive about the other persons position, ignoring arguments and being a hostile and condescending asshole is how you have a good faith discussion. I'm definitely the one who started pulling smuglord stuff, I'm not at all responding in kind. You are a victim of unreasonable modding and a victim of me being super duper mean for no reason at all. You're just a widdle guy asking good faith questions.
I'm disappointed honestly. I didn't want to block you because I enjoy a lot of what you post, but this is just getting too much. Own up to being an asshole or at the very least engage with the basic reality that I have a very good reason not to think of this as a "good faith discussion" due to the reasons I've already given you. It sucks that you suck this much. Blocked and also cum