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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Walk_On@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

[I originally posted this in chapotraphouse, but it was deleted for being “pro-cop” even though that very much wasn’t the case. (I believe PSL was actually involved in organizing the protest if I’m not mistaken.) The mod that deleted it openly broke the sectarian rule too.]

Been seeing a lot of people hating on what the protest marshals did during the pro-Gaza protests at the DNC and I feel they definitely did the right thing. Instigating stuff like going up against the cops under the guise of “revolutionary” action just gets a lot of people arrested and doesn’t accomplish anything.

EDIT: Users who were present at the protests have said, counter to what is claimed in the screenshot, that the protest marshals did NOT call for the police. Thank you for clearing this up, comrades!

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[-] bazingabrain@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

Reminder that nonviolent action was literally a CIA funded Psyop so successful it is now permanently baked into the way protests work worldwide.

[-] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 2 months ago

...you're way overstating this.

Nonviolence is a tactic that has been used all over the world, and uses of it predate the existence of the CIA (see India and South Africa). Of course states have latched onto it as a way of criticizing dissenters ("you're not protesting the right way"), but that doesn't mean it's a useless tactic invented as a means of control. It has its uses, just like other tactics.

[-] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 19 points 2 months ago

Even in genuinely revolutionary situations where violent overthrow is an immediate goal, discipline is absolutely key.

[-] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 months ago

And that's one of the uses of nonviolence -- you get people to start building that discipline even in tense situations where violence may break out.

[-] bazingabrain@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

no im not.

Please read the following, thanks.

Debunking the myths around nonviolent resistance by Peter Gelderloos
How Nonviolence Protects the State by Peter Gelderloos
Full Spectrum Resistance by Aric McBay
Ecodefense: A Field Guide to Monkeywrenching by various authors (many concepts that can be applied beyond just resisting ecocide)
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