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We should probably be agitating on .world (hexbear.net)
submitted 10 months ago by GarbageShoot@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net
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There are a bunch of sicko neoliberals and insufferable redditors there, yes, but there are also some normal libs and a few comrades, and it seems like a good way to encourage lemmy generally to re-embrace leftism.

I've been using an alt to talk on there and it's honestly not that bad. It's a little bad, but not that bad. I think if we just try to patiently explain ourselves, we have a reasonable chance of reaching people and shifting the general political alignment.

Those of us who aren't up to dealing with ghouls (I am frequently included in this group) can just stay at home here and that's just fine.

Anyway, just an idea. I would appreciate feedback.

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[–] pancake@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'd say we shouldn't be afraid of discussing political topics in .world, but a few outliers being too disruptive could result in defederation. So the "patiently explain ourselves" part seems like the really important thing to me here. Also, if at some point there actually is much more political debate in their communities, I'd suggest engaging with mods in good faith and to a reasonable extent with the intention of keeping the space civil.

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 49 points 10 months ago (3 children)

but a few outliers being too disruptive could result in defederation

they preemptively defederated Hexbear before Hexbear could even federate

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Preemptively as a last resort, of course.

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago

🤦 can't believe I left out the funniest part

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

when the US initiates the worldwide nuclear exchange of 2027 this will be the reasoning given verbatim

[–] pancake@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So, you're not federated to them atm?

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No lol, it would require a non-Hexbear account

[–] pancake@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is .ml still federated to them? Maybe I could use my old account...

[–] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Neither is lemmygrad

[–] pancake@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're right, my bad. Even then, I don't think the backlash would be innocuous if too many users go overboard. Especially if for some reason .world admins end up having to intervene.

[–] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think that's fair, but I don't think the blood could get much worse between .world and hexbear/the grad.

[–] pancake@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not between them, but other servers might choose to defederate if word spreads (not that I think it would be likely, but it's bad enough of a scenario to at least be careful).

[–] simply_surprise@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Fair enough!

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

I'm not 100% sure what the federation situation is from the hexbear-retro side, but we've never been able to access any of their comms or see their posters while on hexbear.net, I only see them if I click on the little federation icon to see a post on its native instance and that instance is federated with them.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

We didn't so much as glance at the cowards before they buckled

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

I agree with all points. I would say that lemmygrad especially should probably not use grad accounts for that reason. Ideally, one would make a .world account or maybe an .ee account so there's less concern about backlash