We welcome any new users but we do not officially life raft anymore
I really like this and will likely repost this as a community pin in hexbear. We often discuss the meeting agends / proposal in the mod chat to make sure the phrasing is agreed on by the entire team, however I'm happy to open that up to the site. After the feedback post / meeting is it intended to have a follow-up post for the actual changes discussed in the meeting? Are the same formatting and requirements applied to that post as well?
As an example a few days before a post where specific changes are made to the code of conduct a meeting post is made where the scope of that changes are laid out as well as some proposed changes / discussion about the changes occurs. After the meeting post there is a post where the code of conduct changes are listed and the users can vote on it?
Thank you, I'll come back and reread this and edit this comment with any additional questions.
No need to apologize at all, I greatly appreciate your words and perspective.
I don't really understand what you are saying? The division of mod labor is intended to mitigate burnout but the highest source of stress are these extended meta discussions filled with insults and hostile comments.
The Matrix is for discussing mod rulings ex: "hey I I this report in my community, do you think it should be removed?" "Sure but maybe message the user to change it before removing it?" "Ok"
While the admins ask mods their opinion about site changes just as we ask the userbase it isn't solely on us or them we have tried to use the entire site to make large changes the past few months
We know who leaked the chat log.
They were a recent add to the mod team, and they dow loaded the entire chat from when they joined until a couple days after z was banned. When the leak was sent via url we closed the old mod chat and started a new one with active mods.
The leak does not contain the entire discussion of zppster, the emoji, nakoichi and the moderation of that larger meta event.
I would have been more than happy to discuss their dissatisfaction either on hexbear or in DM. I did exactly that with another mod who thought we were using AI tools to moderate which is 100% false that mods comments are still up and they are still a member of the mod team.
The only change to the mod chat is that we are being more vigilant about not posting personal info there. It is quite sad abd malicious to leak months of irrelevant discussion and personal info because of a disagreement over moderation.
I'm not quite sure how engaging in multiple posts where I'm begging for concrete ways to change is sweeping it under the rug but I can understand how someone would reach that conclusion.
The way to apply to mod is to send an admin the mod application.
I 100% agree, thank you
The problem is there are many comments expressing their emotion but there is not many ideas for concrete change. This is now the forth post discussing this, after the initial post, a post made by hellinkilla, the post for the EMPOC community, and now this one. From all these posts what changes could be made? I will remove inactive mods, we have a very diverse admin team with multiple admins directly nominated by the EMPOC community over a year ago. We have committed to having more meta posts to engage the community in changes, we discuss every site-ban and often correct error in moderation. We genuinely want to engage in good faith and with the most charitable interpretation of the community.
The user union community was a constant source of unproductive site-drama that was abused by wreckers. We have allowed meta posts in the !hexbear@hexbear.net for over a year now as well as the sidebar matrix channel
The link posted contained a private chatroom and since it is the entire chat-history dumped contains doxxing info.
Modlogs will not be public due to the history of doxxing and death threats.
We will be involving the user base in a discussion of the mods, and the hexbear community serves as a userunion.
Yes, the next meta post will invite the user base to discuss updating the Code of Conduct, as well as how moderators are chosen and how they are removed. I will make the post next week, thank you for holding us accountable. Links to doxxing information will be removed from the database using the tools we have available which may be imprecise but are imperative to maintain the safety of our mod team due to past doxxing and death threats.
The structure of the site is as follows.
The users report violations of the code of conduct, moderators receive these reports for the communities they moderate and take action as appropriate. When there is multiple mod actions taken among multiple communities and/or the user has a history of mod actions across the account as well as previous alts as admin may take site action (such as a temporary or permanent site ban)
In the event a user continues to repeat the same actions that broke the code of conduct the admins may use tools such as looking at upvotes, posts, comments and username trends to act on these alts preemptively. In such a case we take effort to unban the account in the event we receive information that our mod actions are incorrect.
The way that moderators are added is an existing mod vouches for them (rare) or they submit a mod application to the admin team, we accept the vast majority of applicants. In the event a moderator violates the code of conduct an admin will asses and demod when appropriate.
The admins take a hands-off approach relying upon community moderators to handle their communities and acting in the event of a wrecker, spammer, or non-local user that is reactionary. Due to the moderators receiving death threats, and doxxing attempts we have anonymzied the modlog to protect our volunteers.
There was a post made by multiple users discussing the meta situation after the emoji request, there was a dedicated post allowing the EMPOC community to discuss the events. Due to the multiple posts on this topic we won't be featuring anymore, however there will be an upcoming post featured for discussing the code of conduct itself as well as the moderator approval/removal process.
The https://hexbear.net/c/hexbear community is where you can discuss meta topics or mod actions as well as the matrix room linked in that community's sidebar.
I have maintained that the admins have no goal other than enforcing the code of conduct, there has never been a "growth" mindset for the site nor can we speak to the direction of the site. We have always encouraged the users to take direction and create the community they want to see, the growth of the news mega, trans mega, movie nights, theory/reading clubs are all a result of users working together to create something.
It can be difficult to try and translate vague or unspecific comments into what could be actually changed.
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this gif might need a dropdown spoiler tag with a seizure warning or flashing light alert for any users with epilepsy, could you please edit your comment