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Summary

Efforts to impeach Donald Trump for a third time are intensifying as he begins his second term.

The non-partisan group Free Speech For People launched the "Impeach Trump. Again" campaign, citing constitutional violations, including his alleged role in the January 6 Capitol riots and breaches of the emoluments clause.

The group also accuses Trump of campaign finance violations, xenophobic rhetoric, and abuse of power.

However, impeachment remains unlikely with Republicans controlling Congress. Democrats may revisit impeachment if they regain control in 2026.

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago

What the fuck is impeachment anymore?

Growing up and learning Nixon resigned because he was impeached and made him look terrible I thought it was career ending. Like they'll drag you out of the white house career ending.

Now it just feels like telling a toddler "NO!" but with no consequence when they keep going anyway.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago

Come on. That shit is going nowhere.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

"Surely, this time, impeachment will have consequences!"

Even if it passes, he will never be removed from office. There is no low that Trump can sink to where Republicans will not fall in lockstep with him. It's pointless.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

It gives Democrats something to campaign and fundraise on. Now you can FIGHT BACK by donating $25 to the Impeach Trump in 2025 Campaign.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 7 points 18 hours ago

Good. They should get rid of him by any means necessary.

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

"The non-partisan group"

HAHAHAHA!!! Fuck off!!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Liz Cheney and Kamala Harris holding hands forever

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Who gives a shit if they're partisan. The fashies call everything left of trump partisan

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

"It's ok to lie about things! Truth can be bent as long as it serves the mindset that I have! All you got to do is label everything fascist! Then lying or presenting falsehoods is righteous!!!!"

All they had to do was NOT present this organization as "non-partisan" and the article would have held credibility.

But who the fuck needs credibility?! My opinion is righteous and just!!

Ah yes i remember these exact news at this time during his first term

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Nothing news from an empty source.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Impeachment stops corrupt individuals, not an entire party of fascists

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Lol as proved last time, impeachment means absolutely nothing. It didn't stop the last corrupt individual, in fact he was just reelected and is as corrupt, if not more, than before.

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

It's certainly doomed, but democrats already get paid to be there so why not use every tool in the book? Time Congress is arguing about impeachment is time they're not implementing fascist policies

Exactly. The corrupt individual couldn't be stopped because theres an entire corrupted party that supports the corrupt individual.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, unless the Senate finds him guilty, which they didn't last time and won't likely this time, if won't stop him.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

the american democracy would be pretty good, if it wasn’t for parties… now it’s a never ending competition between two conspiracies

Lol its not the "parties"

The constitution never said anything about the two-party system.

That was an emergent property of FPTP voting system

TLDR: Fuck the FPTP system

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

And it's not like we didn't fuckin' see it coming, either. Washington, with one foot out the door: "Don't deify me, don't form political parties."

So, guess what else nobody listed to him about?

[–] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No GOP backing, so this is meaningless theater.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Exactly. He's been impeached twice and nothing happened. He should have been barred from office years ago. The entire process is nothing but political theatre for donors.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

How many times did the magahats offer impeachment articles for Biden? The theater isn't meant to be successful, but just a constant buzz for voters.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Impeachment is irrelevant anymore

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

It's a process. It is like filing charges against someone, and then the Senate holds the trial. The Senate found him not guilty. So there were no consequences.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 150 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Jesus Christ... NO.

Same as the last two times, it's a wasted effort without the votes in the Senate. If you can't remove him, don't bother. Focus on winning back the House and Senate in 2026.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 141 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Time and time again, this image remains relevant

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 72 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

Without the ACA I would’ve entered life-altering levels of debt (or died?) so I have a slightly more favorable view of democrats than this. Occasionally they move the needle, even if I find them incredibly frustrating.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

They absolutely can do good things, I was mostly referring to the fact that they knew that what is happening would happen and yet put in zero protections to protect Americans from literal fascism, instead they used fear mongering as a campaign tactic.

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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago

That's the idea. Impeach him after 26. It's in the article

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

FFS no. All it did the last two times was help him, because impeachment is basically impossible and he's going to "win".

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 98 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Unfortunately this is just a sign of how bad the US has gotten.

There have been impeachment attempts on Clinton, W Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden. Impeachment was supposed to be used to stop a president acting illegally but its just become another political weapon in the US capitol.

The US system is so unbelievably broken. It entirely depends on bipartisan support to get things done but things are now too polarised to function and the electoral system prevents 3rd parties access at any level.

The two parties have destroyed democracy. It could be fixed but it would need to start at the state levels with 3rd parties coming in and rebuilding the electoral system. But the 2 parties have even gerrymandered the constituencies so only the two parties can win.

Even other countries with first past the post systems have other viable political parties - look at the UK, Australia and Canada. Fptp is flawed and breed an replacing but the US version is next level for locking in the status quo.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

There actually was no impeachment attempt on W. Bush, Pelosi intentionally took it off the table.

Similarly there were no serious attempts on Obama or Biden either. Threats, definitely. Obama specifically was threatened with impeachment over military action in Libya without congressional approval, but then that became "WhY DiDn't yOu dO AnYtHiNg aBoUt bEnGhAzI?"

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 89 points 2 days ago (48 children)

It's not "the two parties". The Republicans impeachment efforts have universally been partisan witch hunts - even the successful one against Clinton. (And I am no fan of Clinton. He should have been ostracized by the Democrats a long time ago). W Bush and Trump both committed crimes worthy of removal from office. It's not the same at all.

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[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just an FYI, Australia doesn't have first past the post, rather we have preferential and compulsory voting. We're quite proud of it. An independent organisation creates voting districts which means gerrymandering is minimised

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[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gotta pretend they are doing something

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Who exactly? Who is pretending they are doing something?? Is it democrats you’re accusing of pretending to do something?

How about maybe you try reading the article next time instead of chiming in with edgy nonsense.

It is a non partisan group called Free Speech for People. You’d have known that had you read the 1st paragraph of the article.

Oh. And while we’re on the subject of pretending… even if you were right and it is the democrats pretending- at least they pretended to do something. Because so many of you flat out admittedly did nothing.

And look what that got us.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm starting to think these Democrats aren't taking this seriously

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

It isn’t the democrats.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

They think they're going to win next time 👍

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[–] ahumana@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Trump has become an untouchable thanks to the people. 😄

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Kick that fat stupid bastard out on his diapered ass fast as you can

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This was a look I was hoping only Republicans would champion. Ceremonial impeachments etc. One little trick i hope they master is shutting down the government just because they felt like it.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Impeachment is pointless when the republican traitor filth control more than 1/3 of the senate. Suggest other solutions to dealing with trump.

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