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ASHEVILLE, North Carolina, Jan 24 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday said he would sign an executive order to begin the process of fundamentally overhauling or eliminating the Federal Emergency Management Agency. "FEMA has turned out to be a disaster ... I think we recommend that FEMA go away," he said during a tour of North Carolina to see damage done by Hurricane Helene last year.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Goodbye New Orleans, Miami, Jacksonville, Virginia Beach, all those Florida cities that are underwater from hurricane surge every year now, etc

Asheville North Carolina received 63 million in FEMA aid just a few months ago to help recover from hurricane season. He lied trying to say they didn't have the money and now he's making that the case.

https://avlwatchdog.org/a-month-in-fema-has-paid-out-63-million-in-buncombe-more-than-any-other-county/

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is gonna go over well next time there's half an inch of snow in Texas and the entire power grid goes down. 😂

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago

Oh no it'll be fun.

He'll get rid of FEMA, and just throw money at the states he likes. Of course the real trick is, his buddies in the States he likes will just pocket the money.

Nobody gets helped, horrible press all over the place. Lots of disenfranchised red voters.

Won't turn them blue, But they might be less likely to vote.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Fun fact, it just snowed in Houston. Surprisingly went okay. Not to defend the Texas power grid. I still had random power outages all year. But it did survive some snow. So that was nice.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

They'll just pull themselves up by their... wait

[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 193 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

“But my egg prices” - morons about to have a very bad 2025 Atlantic hurricane season.

We all warned you this would happen. This move was plainly outlined in Project 2025. Nobody tricked you, you’re just fucking morons.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (4 children)

B b but Trump claimed he never heard of project 2025. He wouldn't just lie to the American people right?

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think if he denies a state assistance because they won't play his games, other countries step in and send all the assistance that state could want. Imagine if China just threw billions of dollars at LA without conditions to make a point. I don't expect Xi to be that smart, but it would be funny as hell watching Trump scramble.

[–] Ziro427@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I remember a story about a remote town that needed a bridge replaced. And the federal government was dragging their feet about it until the town wrote to the Soviet Union about helping them build the bridge.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Xi and Trump seem to coordinate pretty closely. If Trump weakened US cohesiveness and Xi stepped in, Trump would thank him and kiss his ass.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] DesertHermit@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

This 1million%

Also grew up being promised that any day now, 1) Bill Clinton will take all the guns, and 2) We'll go to FEMA camps to get gassed. It was all part of the UN Agenda 21 thing that George HW Bush/Clintons/Soros/CNN/Bill Gates and the New World Order One-World-Government are bringing.

Except none of that ever happened. Hm....were those guests on Art Bell in 1998 possibly....wrong?

And yet, 30 years later, here we are.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The south hurt itself in its confusion.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think you misunderstand his goal here. This won't stop him from giving aid to the people/states who help him. This will only stop FEMA helping everyone unconditionally. He isn't trying to stop aid. He's trying to stop aid without strings attached. This is a power play.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Plus read about how he specifically didn’t want emergency response people ready to jump in and help, just money. Money to be allocated on personal choice, not need, to the governor. Money for the governor to allocate by personal choice, not need, to communities and companies. This is about buying favors all the way down.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

States would need to create an emergency bureaucracy redundant to each other state. California or Texas could do it but good luck South Dakota.

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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 132 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm willing to bet that the "problem" with FEMA is that, due to its vital role in dealing with emergencies, it has particularly stringent safeguards in place to prevent it becoming a partisan tool. And since Trump's stated goal is to turn the entirety of the federal government into a partisan tool, it has to go.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago

Maybe there are some buddies of the trump crime family that would be happy to privatize aid to disaster victims for a nice fee, and trump would like to withhold or bestow aid on States and individual officials that kiss his ass. So you bet the Left Coast won't be getting any, but Mar a Lago will get a new roof every year.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Nah, it's just really hard to steal from it without people noticing.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They say they have a plan to give money directly to the states instead. So far nobody has seen or heard this plan.

Even if such a plan exists, that still sounds like they're taking a stockpile of vehicles and personnel and getting rid of it all only to be unprepared for all future disasters.

The plan is to give money to states that kiss trump’s ass, and none for the blue states or cities that don’t.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fuck it. Bye Texas. Bye Florida. You will not be missed.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah that's not how this plays out. This will only affect states that he wants it to to affect, and when.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah... probably :(

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'll miss me, but also not really. I've already accepted that I'm probably gonna die before Trump is out of office—I don't know if it's better to go out in a concentration camp or some unmanaged aftermath of a natural disaster.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

Take some fascists with you.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every accusation is a project. They will turn FEMA into what they've been accusing FEMA of.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Now we know where they’ll put those accused of illegal immigration.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 46 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Just like the covid crisis (it's a hoax) where he said it would 'disappear', President Felon & his cult will leave us all to die without any help or caring from our government, that we fund !

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/08/fema-direct-payments-state-recipients

Where FEMA's direct relief money is going

Florida, Louisiana and Texas residents have received the lion's share of FEMA direct assistance since 2015, per newly gathered data.

Texas and Louisiana have been Republican-favoring states for some time.

https://www.270towin.com/states/Louisiana

https://www.270towin.com/states/Texas

Florida is more swing, though has been trending Republican:

https://www.270towin.com/states/Florida

I'd guess -- not familiar with the politics -- that maybe there's irritation with FEMA's speed of processing hurricane aid in those states, and that's what's driving Trump's statements. However, if FEMA simply disappeared tomorrow, along with the aid it provided, it'd probably be generally-disadvantageous to Republican-favoring states.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Nah, "get rid of FEMA" has been a thing for a long while, since before 2000. The issue is FEMA looks like a giant black box that does nothing but suck money when they aren't being actively used, at least to the layperson, and when they ARE engaged with a disaster, people don't get that it's almost always local aid networks and such that actually handle distributing things because they know their town and the people who need help better than FEMA does, so they still look like all they're doing is dumping truckloads of supplies off in the middle of the area. They also buy scary things like body bags (because natural disasters tend to wind up with a lot of dead bodies), making dumb people think they have some ulterior, sinister motives (see X-Files).

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

The layperson doesn't think about FEMA at all unless there's been a recent disaster. Regular people aren't making lists of government organizations and cataloging their budgets. If an org hasn't literally just been in the news, they forget it exists.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 56 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All those hurricane victims that complained about "illegals" getting some FEMA (but it wasn't FEMA money, not that they cared) money got their wish. They won't get any more FEMA money. Maybe nobody else will, either.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Florida's about to be unaffordable for millions of Americans. FEMA's NFIP program had been disproportionately keeping cost of flood insurance low for millions of people in hurricane/flood regions along the Gulf coast, but now the market alone will dictate rates if FEMA is taken out of the picture.

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[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The replacement will have jump shot training sessions with paper towels.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I know this is stretching it, but given how stupid of a timeline we're in, I have to allow for the possibility that FEMA is being disbanded because CA Gov. Newsom is taller than Trump.

[–] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (10 children)

These budget cuts are getting weird.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, they're not cutting subsidies to businesses, rolling back tax breaks, or anything that affects the deep pockets. Nope. They're cutting stuff that helps people at home and abroad. Cut FEMA here, cut foreign aid. Eliminating housing and food help.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I mean, they kind of said they were going to take this tack pretty clearly

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm really wishing for a big hurricane seasons this summer

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The monkey's paw curls.

By July, the southeastern United States is battered by storm after storm. The Gulf Coast and much of Florida are devastated, with levees failing, cities flooding, and millions displaced. The media dubs it "The Year of the Tempest."

With much of the southeastern U.S. uninhabitable, millions of displaced people flee their homes to other states. Entire communities pack what little they can carry and flee inland. Many seek refuge in neighboring states, but the sheer volume of displaced people overwhelms resources. The refugees keep moving, spreading across the country, heading as far as California and the Midwest.

At first, they are met with compassion. Towns open their doors, offering shelters and supplies. But the strain is enormous. Schools overflow, hospitals run out of beds, and housing markets skyrocket.

The social fabric begins to tear. The newcomers carry with them not just their belongings, but their political and cultural beliefs. Many are deeply conservative, opposed to the progressive policies in the states that take them in. School boards clash over curriculum changes. Gun laws, environmental regulations, and LGBTQ+ rights become battlegrounds in communities that had once considered these issues settled.

What starts as a humanitarian crisis quickly becomes a cultural and political one.

By the end of the year, the consequences of the wish are undeniable. Many states see their progressive majorities evaporate. Refugees from the southeastern U.S., driven by desperation and fear, vote in droves to undo the policies of their host states. Climate action bills are tabled as state legislatures pivot to immigration control and oil subsidy.

Meanwhile, the southeastern states, still battered and uninhabitable, become a no-man’s-land, a haunting reminder of the devastation. The hurricanes force millions to leave, but the political ideologies that resist change endure, spreading like a second storm across the country.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So trump thinks that a president is king and that royal decrees (executive orders) can just do whatever the hell he wants, bypassing senate and all, ignoring existing law

It's not how that works, it's not how anything works, but for some weird reason the Senate just goes with it and for existing law, well, so far judges are striking down all his shit but something tells me that the supre court will just say with the first trial that cheeto is always right and that will be it.

It's very demonstrably how that works in the context of recent US history. It shouldn't, but it does.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

That is how it works as long as no one does anything to stop it.

Same as how Trump is not eligible to be President by the constitution, but that didn't stop him.

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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 21 points 2 days ago

The amount of americans this will kill would demand retaliation if putin had used kinetic warfare instead.

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