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Hexbear Proposals chapo.chat matrix room.

This will be a place for site proposals and discussion before implementation on the site.
Every proposal will also be mirrored into a pinned post on the hexbear community.

Any other ideas for helping to integrate the two spaces are welcome to be commented here or messaged to me directly.

Within Hexbear Proposals you can see the history of all site proposals and react to them, indicating a vote for or against a proposal.

Sending messages will be restricted to verified and active hexbear accounts older than 1 month with their matrix id in their hexbear user profile.

All top level messages within the channel must be a Proposals (idea for changing the site), Feedback (regarding non-technical aspects of the site, for technical please use https://hexbear.net/c/feedback), or Appeals (regarding admin/moderator actions).

Discussion regarding these will be within nested threads under the post.

To gain matrix verification, all you need to do is navigate to my hexbear userprofile and click the send a secure private message including your hexbear username.

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we fucked up (chapo.chat)
submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by CARCOSA@hexbear.net to c/hexbear@hexbear.net
 

Hello users of hexbear, or shall i say chapo.chat, we fucked up, and i fucked up like three times making this post.

Yes, hexbear.net has expired. Yes, we were aware of this possibility. We have gradually lost contact with the access owner (prior admin) for the domain registration. We attempted to make a migration plan, but we were disarmed by the reappearance of the party in question in September 2024 and repeated assurances that they would a) transfer credentials and b) continue payments until they were able to do the former.

We accept full responsibility for this. We should have been more aggressive about this and continued our alternative despite these reassurances. This is our fuck up, and we can't offer anything besides our continued apologies and our plan of action going forward and an explanation of what happened:

Over the time of chapo.chat and hexbear.net the admins that purchased the domain, established the donation accounts, and the server accounts have left. One of the primary admins has gone inactive and returned many times, over a year ago some of the newer admins began asking the older admins to give full access to the domain, servers, and donations. These requests were not met, despite warnings of this exact event.

At the moment we do not have access to hexbear.net and there is a strong chance we will not get it back without participating in the auction, which is already over $300. Choosing to abandon the hexbear.net domain will cause federation problems and considerable technical issues which would lead to potential extended downtime.

During this downtime we would be reestablishing access to the new domain (or hexbear.net if we win the auction), access to server ownership, and donation accounts. This would be distributed among a number of admins so that we can prevent this from happening again.

Chapo.chat has the same access problem that led to the current state of hexbear.net so it is to be considered temporary.

I will do my best to answer questions

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[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Pinning @piggy@hexbear.net comment:

True Hexbear Fedayeen have hexbear hard coded in their hosts file and are currently enjoying their beanis

On OSX/Linux just add 37.187.73.130 hexbear.net to the bottom of /etc/hosts and you'll get your beanis back.

On Windows its at C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts

On Phones it's much harder so all your beanis are lost.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd like to reignite the beanis struggle session to cover for CARCOSA on this one

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[–] PaX@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

IP address is wrong: it should be "37.187.73.130" according to Cloudflare DNS

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[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 46 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Call me silly, tell me to touch grass, but hexbear has been a big part of my life for a few years now.

I don't want to see anyone go away, and i have faith we'll be back up in whatever form before long. Yall have given me so much over the years, and been by my side as I grow, through all my ups and downs.

Idk, feels like i had more to say, but lost my train of thought. Outside hangin with the corgi rn.

I love you all, and can't wait until we're back in whatever form.

cuddle

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[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 36 points 3 weeks ago (59 children)

Please reply to this comment with name suggestions in the event we have to change from hexbear.net

[–] Moonworm@hexbear.net 50 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
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[–] whatnots@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i'm with the folks wanting different variations of hexbear (.zone/.space/.chat/.red)

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[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

FINALLY! Finally it is time for hereshowberniecanstill.win cheer lets-fucking-go

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[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

hexbear.zone

[–] Bruja@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Someone here already registered hexbear.gay that redirects to a community here, if getting access is an option. Fits with the majority of the userbase.

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[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Obvious option would be hexbear with an alternative to .net, like .su or something. Although sometimes .su gets auto flagged as malicious since there isn't a Soviet Union anymore, idk

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

we could maybe get a cn or hk domain that may get us unbanned in china

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[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I have a friend who is willing to help us get hexbear.su. I don't have a Russian passport, so the stability will be an issue, but we could get it for the bit. Should I pursue this?

Never mind, I didn't realize that an Amerikkkan passport works for .su

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

Whitehouse.gov

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[–] PostyourJaggaHogs@hexbear.net 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

USAID funding gets slashed

Hexbear mysteriously loses access to the site owner

hmmm

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[–] Omegamint@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I don't think it's really a big deal beyond the work it'll take to fix things, honestly don't let yourselves get dragged into a bidding war with some lib or something that wants to fuck with us.

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

that is my personal stance, and i want to see what the community wants to be named

[–] Pili@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

I propose hasan.lib

[–] geese_feces@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

here are some domains that are unregistered:

hexbear.xyz
hexbear.chat
hexbear.red
hexbear.space
hexbear.club
hexbear.love
hexbear.lol
hexbear.earth
hexbear.farm
hexbear.fun
hexbear.gg
hexbear.land
hexbear.life
hexbear.quest
hex.horse
[–] Owl@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

If it becomes hex.horse I'll photoshop a hexagonal horse. This is my pledge to the community.

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[–] Moonworm@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Doesn't seem worth it to buy the domain again and it sounds like we're looking at downtime no matter what.

On the bright side we have the opportunity to absolutely lose our fucking minds over renaming the site again.

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[–] buh@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There’s one thing I’m sure of, when this is all over, “visit hexbear.net” is going to be added as an emote

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[–] buh@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

At least we outlived kissinger

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Please don't spend a single cent recovering the domain. The closing bid is probably going to be >$1000, which most of you probably couldn't afford anyways. What's done is done.

The way forward is to accept the lost of the domain name, come up with internal processes to make sure that retiring admins have to fork over the credentials, and either come up with another site name or reuse chapo.chat. Please don't try to attempt to outbid these libs and definitely do not make some humiliating backroom deal with those libs over the administration of this site for the sake of getting the domain back.

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

chapo.chat has the same lack of access problem that hexbear.net has so i do not want to rely on it

[–] rhubarb@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

lmao, I guess it's time for bean dot is

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

Biggest struggle session ever incoming.

[–] Gorb@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

When this happened did you say "oops" as that's what I'd do

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago

I'd also consider a ruh r'oh raggy

[–] GayTuckerCarlson@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

collar tug while saying yikes

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[–] forcequit@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

letting the domain expire as a joke was not ok

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[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago

Letting the hexbear domain ownership expire as a joke is not OKsquidward-scream-point

😔

[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

pouring one out for all of the hexbears who don't know how to reconnect with the site

timmy-pray family-guy-death-pose

hope they find their way back to us some day

[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

when the site gets back up and running, please make the "visit hexbear.net" textbox that's replacing all the emojis rn into an actual emoji. maybe called like ":we-fucked-up:" or something

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[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Omg this is so embarrassing.

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

those USAID cuts messed us up /j

[–] Moonworm@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

Just glad no one got arrested probably.

[–] vger@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

🚨 Comment found elsewhere:

So this is a man-in-the-middle attack waiting to happen isn’t it? Buy the domain, setup a reverse proxy that points to the original hexbear server IP and start logging all requests.

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[–] Grebgreb@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

this is unfortunate

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

if socialism was a website smuglord

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[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you (admins) decide you do want to participate in the bidding war, I am willing to front the cash as long as it doesn't get too outrageous and we could set up donations afterwards for me to recoup what I can. I realize that it's like the lowest form of charitable donation imaginable, but a lot of people (myself included) get a lot of positive mental health benefits out of this community and I'd hate to see it lose a whole bunch of members because they weren't able to figure out what happened or where we all disappeared to.

Message me if you want to discuss it further.

[–] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

we have a plan to mitigate any security issues of losing hexbear.net and have a handful of people willing to pitch-in for the hexbear.net domain. we are exploring what it would look like to change domains, and as such want to involve the user base in what the name change would be. there are a number of folks interested in helping with the cost of obtaining hexbear.net so that is undoubtedly an option as well

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[–] Owl@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

beanis.org is available

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can someone email me when the new URL is up? My email is KnilAdlez@fbi.gov

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[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

Eh, we had a good run (allegedly)

[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

A brand new type of completely unforced error. Exactly what I expect here

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