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If the US leaves the United Nations, does that mean they lose their security council veto power even if they somehow rejoin later?
Seems like something the other former global superpower, Russia, would be very happy to see happen.
I fail to see how this advances America's interests whatsoever. Republicans are huffing glue again.
That's a similar case to UK leaving the EU. They had a lot of provisions just for them - tax exempts etc. If UK decides to rejoin they will have to renegotiate the terms and EU will not want to grant them the same relief as they had in the past.
If the American people had any sense they would cut the heads off their new kings.
Nato is the only reason we European country bought those ultra expensive F35 paying billions to purchase and operate them.
I wonder what's going to happen to the new Gernan rifles of the US military.
They’ll get expensive.
This is not going to end well for Elon Musk.
Who gives a shit about him. This is not going to end well for everyone.
I sincerely hope not.
If the US leaves the UN it permanently gives up its seat in the Security Council and its veto.
Russia magically inherited the USSR's security council seat even though they are not the USSR. When the US collapses, which part gets their old seat? (I vote we give it to Canada personally)
Russia was always Russia. It was the seat of the USSR so it just stayed with Russia. If the US withdraws it gives up its seat. Canada would happily accept a permanent seat on the Security Council with veto.
Yeah, Russia took over the debts of the USSR as well, didn't they?
Leaving the UN would mean giving up US veto power. This would be one of the stupidest decisions of all time. No wonder Elon wants to do it.
Name one time US veto power was used for good.
For making an argument to appeal to musk, that's besides the point. In fact because the veto power being used for bad it is probably is a more appealing point
Leaving NATO would cost the US over $100 billion in arms sales annually, so they won't do it. But to have and eat their cake they just don't need to honour article 5
Idk, Trump already tried it at the end of his last term. These people don't have the USA's best interests in mind.
To be perfectly honest they should probably kick the US out of it
The US intentionally leaving the organizations they have domination over as a means to exert soft power globally would certainly be good for weakening the US Empire. This seems like a case where the architects of Empire failed to raise successors and as such the ones with the reigns are now "true believers" in the architects' web of lies.
FUCK THIS GUY SO HARD. I swear to god this lunatic needs to be stopped.
This lunatic is a danger for the world. He is an unelected unaccountable person with the power of the presidency. It’s terrifying.
Preferably a bullet
Perfect, I'd rather they step away and let us remake it into a n EU group.
Leaving the US inside the NATO still gives them veto rights.
Both NATO and the U.N. were founded by the U.S. and other victors of World War II to promote diplomacy and cooperation between nations as well as to prevent another global war.
claiming that the organization does not align with the Trump administration
Checks out.
It's kinda like Brexit
Except even the UK at it's most anti-EU still understood that NATO and the UN helped them more than it cost them.
The strength of the US as a power and economy would be devastated if they forfeited their standing in those organizations. Particularly the UN hardly demands anything of the US but broadly caters to US sentiment. It's a super cheap channel to exercise US soft power.
Basically destroy all things that made the US a world leader.
The USA have never been so weak and so alone. Seems like a good time to exit NATO
... which has cut significant amounts of government spending...
Has it, though? I mean, even its own over-inflated "receipts" are barely a microscopic percentage of a drop of the overall budget.
Who?