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The buyer’s remorse is playing out at a volatile moment for Tesla, as stocks dropped by double digits in the last week, wiping out most of a post-election surge for Mr. Musk’s company. A recent report showed plummeting sales in Europe, and the company faces increased competition from other E.V. makers eating away at its market share. Recent protests outside Tesla showrooms in the United States and some notable cases of vehicle owners being harassed have also made headlines.

Ms. Trebb, 54, a family therapist and a Democrat, said she had decided to trade in her Tesla for a gas-powered Mercedes, accepting $32,000 of the Tesla’s original $55,880 value, despite having only 10,000 miles on it. Her decision, she said, was cemented during a recent trip to the supermarket.

“Two weeks ago, I was called a Nazi,” she said, “in the parking lot at Kroger,” adding an expletive. “I came home and told my husband, ‘That’s it. I’m done.’”

A number of defectors from the Tesla brand said that a deal-breaker was when Mr. Musk extended his arm diagonally upward, palm facing down while speaking at an inauguration event for Mr. Trump, a gesture that resembled a salute used in Nazi Germany and fascist Italy.

“I’m sort of embarrassed to be seen in that car now,” said Ms. Trebb, who got a bumper sticker that said, “I bought this before Elon went crazy,” one that has gained popularity.

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[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 113 points 2 days ago (4 children)

when Mr. Musk extended his arm diagonally upward, palm facing down while speaking at an inauguration event for Mr. Trump, a gesture that resembled a salute used in Nazi Germany and fascist Italy.

That’s a lot of words for “did a nazi salute,” NYT. I’m thinking there’s a newspaper needs scalpin’.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

NYTimes is the quintessential epitome of the sort of middling liberal apologetics that funnel a society toward fascism. They aren't friends, they're a mouthpiece for money.

[–] alaphic@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I know my 4 dollars a month is nothing to them, but at least you can rest comfortably tonight knowing that by bringing this sentence to my attention you just lost them a sub lol

[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

know my 4 dollars a month is nothing to them, but at least you can rest comfortably tonight knowing that by bringing this sentence to my attention you just lost them a sub lol

you mean you held a rodent-like object in your hand palm down and applied pressure on its button to activate a trigger what appears to cancel your NYT subscription?

[–] alaphic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

My cat helped

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Excellent. I also recently stopped my subscription.

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

I’m going to get downvoted for this, but I understand where they’re coming from on this. They can’t come out and call it that because to do so would risk a lawsuit that could effectively kill the newspaper. Seriously, Musk could purchase it, shutter it, and recoup his losses in no-bid contracts next week. Instead, he could sue them for defamation. He would likely win, or at least get a large settlement. That would ripple through the paper in the form of reduced coverage and possibly reduced staff.

Read what they wrote again. There’s a reason they described what he did so precisely. They know what they’re saying, and so do we. They have to be careful about how they say it, though.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

They say he did what "appeared to be a nazi salute"... or "he did what critics say was a nazi salute". Both of those are journalisticly accurate and a better description of what happened.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

not exactly NYT has been shilling for the right for a number of years, because its owned by a right ringer.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He's gonna sue them anyway. Either have a backbone or exit the paper business

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[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they're worried about billionaires having too much power and trying to shut them down then perhaps the NYT should have done more to prevent that situation from being possible. I recall many instances in the past decade where they went out of their way to provide cover for both billionaires and fascists. You reap what you sow.

[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the 2016 and 2020 coverage of Bernie Sanders and their pushing of centrist anti-progressive agendas in the editorials was enough for me to unsubscribe forever. after what they've done in recent years, there's no way I'll ever trust them to represent working class interests.

here's an example just a couple weeks ago of them laundering Republican party talking points into man on the street style "people are saying" interviews about how 'aktually I'm black and I'm glad DEI is being ended.' receipts showing stealth edits made to cover their tracks in the linked article.

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[–] Ultragramps@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago

“I want my scalps.” - Aldo Rayne

[–] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I feel sorry for the Tesla employees. It's not their fault that their company is being owned by a right-wing moron.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hold up. She was tired of the Nazi association with a Tesla, so she traded in for a Mercedes?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 28 points 2 days ago

Neo-nazi association. Mercedes-Benz has been around since 1926, and still is around. Can't say that for the Nazis.

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Musk is not a Nazi, because the Nazis built great cars.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Musk is a neo-nazi.

[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

fuck you Elon and fuck your over hyped car company.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

i believed musk has largely abandoned teslas after he got that 50bn package from them, he doesnt care anymore.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I kinda feel bad for people who thought they were doing something good for the planet, but ended up supporting a Nazi.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Over 3 years of driving my swasticar, I've spent just $800 on electricity to go over 40,000 miles.

Other than replacing the tires once, no other maintenance.

I'm working on terminating my financing without too much loss, and will likely go back to driving a $30/week gas car for awhile until I can figure something out.

It honestly kinda sucks, but fuck Musk.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are there any sort of subscriptions that make you keep paying Musk for the car? I think he's already been paid for the purchase, might as well keep the car? Unless you just don't want to be seen in it of course.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't like being associated with it. Also in my area people are spray painting and kicking dents and breaking windows of Tesla's...which costs me repair money. I'd prefer to avoid that.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

All extremely valid concerns. Sucks, I do like what Tesla stood for until a few years ago. I've always hated that they normalised tablets in place of physical controls though.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

~$0.07/kWh? Where's that? Is that an overnight rate where they rape you in the daylight and cuddle you when the sun goes down? My advertised rate is $0.067/kWh but there are tariffs and surcharges that bring the difference in a 1300 kWh bill and a 1301 kWh bill to $0.16

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually averages $0.058/kWh, rural-ish Oregon, local energy company. I moved here from a place closer to Portland that was ~$0.145/kWh (probably more now).

About half a mile in a couple directions from me the rates go WAYYYYY up. So I'm somewhat lucky. If it ever comes to that though, I'm hoping I can transition to solar.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That's half the off-peak rate from Pacific Power.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

Tesla is headed for a complete collapse this year. Watch for it.

[–] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He was an asshole before he ever sold his first car. The first Tesla was launched into space as a fuck you to his partner.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you're referring to the roadster, that was definitely not the first Tesla.

But yes, complete asshole and has always been.

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sell them off for cheap. Bottom out the market. Buy a Ford Mustang Mach-E. Have fun.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It pisses me off they decided to call that the mustang.

They could have made it the escape and did a modern electric mustang styled like the 1967 fastback.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The Mach-E has absolutely no Mustang DNA in it despite what they want to try to brand. All it does is shit on the Mustang name. I can recognize this and I don't even like Ford or Mustang. I can't imagine how actual fans haven't revolted.

Also, why can't manufacturers just accept that some people want the same vehicles available but with EV powertrains? Not every EV needs to be a unique model. Just like they eventually figured out with hybrids, you can just swap the power train and they'll sell.

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I got downvoted to hell in an ev page for pointing this out when the mach e first came out.

[–] KingGordon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Preach, SatansMaggotyCumFart!

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You could just remove tesla branding. It's too late, the money already went to Musk long ago.

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

By selling the car she is helping to lower the value of the brand.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You're still left with a car without real turn signals that has mechanical problems reminiscent of late 80s Korean cars.

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[–] KingGordon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I am seeng lots of bumper stickers saying they bought the car before elon became a nazi.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

but he always was a Nazi.

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