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Heaven: Star Trek

Hell: Actual, current reality

You might enjoy reading The Egg by Andy Weir, if you haven't already

My heaven could not exist if hell is also real.

The very concept of hell is abominable to me.

Heaven would be somewhere that you can just do all the things you ever wanted to, with no restrictions on time or capability.

Want to know the answer to every mystery or conspiracy theory? Done.

Want to watch and savour every and any great old movie, with the full cinema experience? Not a problem.

Want to be a rock star, or a DJ, or a classical pianist? You are.

Want to be able to relive great moments from your life, happy times with your kids or your friends or your parents? It's all just there for you whenever.

And there's no boredom, and there's no sadness, and there's no rivalry. Just endless happy times.

The Good Place after the adjustments have been made.

And maybe an option for reincarnation (with custom spawn options), in case you don't want to completely cease to exist yet.

Edit: The hell part is obvious, just flatten their [genital]s

Hell: An eternity of the skin-peelingist, ball crushingst torture you can imagine. Eyeball needles. The works. Because everyone has a creative psychological hell that's worse than actual torture-hell, but to those people I say- have you tried torture-hell? Humans can rationalize anything, but it's hard to rationalize a good ball crushing.

Heaven: The abandoned residential belt around Birmingham, Alabama on a hot Saturday afternoon. Immediately following two months of torture-hell.

Interesting ideas.

My idea of Heaven: no place, but reincarnation. That way all the 'good' people will be inhabiting the earth. They have the opportunity to be evil in that life, and then they would go to hell. If they keep continuing to be good, they keep getting reincarnated.

My idea of Hell: Nothing. Just pure death.

What would the criteria of going to heaven or hell? No idea.

Heaven and hell are individual: what the mind creates from the worldview it has built up until death, that one must experience as cells in the brain die and connections sever. One's final dream, so to speak.

So if you have built strong convictions of the existence of either, neither, or something else entirely - your brain will default to the imagery that you yourself have constructed up to that point in the brief moment that those connections still exist.

I don't think there's a benevolent all-powerful being, so I'm not even sure I believe that there's a good vs. bad place.

If there were a benevolent all-powerful being, the amount of injustice and brutality in the world that the truly innocent suffer would be spared from it.

If there is an afterlife, suffering continues there. But not all face suffering. And in that same plane, peace continues there, but not all face peace.

So, if heaven and hell exist, they're the same place.

First, about eternity:

Your physical body ceases to exist. Eternity remains. That means, math and physics have no meaning for you anymore.

Time will end for you. That's the part that's the most difficult to imagine. It is easier to think about how the first 3 dimensions have no meaning anymore, but then time will be gone as well, but you are still there.

Now heaven and hell:

Heaven is when you are forever on good terms with the God who has made you, and his whole bunch there. You will have all that you need for an excellent life there.

Hell is when you aren't - then you remain alone with your grumpy self, or maybe with the devil who makes his life good at your expense.

I think your first hell doesn't sound too bad. unless you're adding that something outside the spirit is keeping it locked in stasis artificially, incapable of making any progress, that just sounds like the core aspect of meditation.

I quite like meditation

I hope hell doesn't exist, an ethical creator would not create a realm for torturing people, however long it's for, especially if it's eternal. They also would just give you heaven now, you wouldn't have to experience a horrible human life to get into it. And it would be eternal pleasure, just like all the happy chemicals in your brain in a magical way so you don't build resistance to it.

Anyway, directly affecting chemicals in your brain is a less interesting but better way to either create pleasure or pain in a human, experiences are fun to describe, but not the best way to actually do it.

Idk what if anything happens after death. Heaven or oblivion would be good, hell or reincarnation would be less desirable.

Heaven: me chilling in my bedroom with all of the dogs I've ever owned, who can also talk to me, I have an endless supply of weed, Coca-Cola and the ability to make any of my favourite foods cooked in the way I remember with access to every single piece of entertainment at my fingertips.

Hell: just me being forced to spend eternity listening to my asshole father scream about me not wanting to play sports and how it's my mum's fault his life sucks, obviously I'm also being tortured by demons but that's my layer of personal hell they'd add.

I don't believe in any afterlife.

They say that life's a carousel

Spinning fast, you gotta ride it well

The world is full of Kings and Queens

Who blind your eyes and steal your dreams

It's Heaven and Hell, oh well

And they'll tell you black is really white

The moon is just the sun at night

And when you walk in golden halls

You get to keep the gold that falls

It's Heaven and Hell, oh no

hell would be to reincarnate back to this world

Heaven and Hell

In hell, they strap you to a chair and make you listen to Taylor Swift for eternity.