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[–] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What. The. Fuck.

They haven’t been doing this from the beginning? That’s shady as all hell.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They had it originally and when they removed it is when I stopped using them. Like every other fucking "Uber of" tech company, they couldn't compete with the traditional thing they were trying to "disrupt" once the VC money dried up, and tried to cover for that with deception. Fuck them, I'll just book a hotel.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

the only way there were going to disrupt is offer a cheaper sustainable service, that turned out to be the opposite in the long run, and airbnb has even caused harm in housing too.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I remember when things like Uber and Air BnB came along the media was saying it was the death of cab companies and hotels. Well enshittification marches on and they've both become bogged down in costs, fees, rules, etc.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

and it has mostly reversed, now cabs/ or other rideshares and hotels are lower costs.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 1 day ago

Corpos gonna corpo... Avoid them as much as possible that's the one of the few effective ways peasants got left to fight the parasite. Goverment, courts and media are always shiling for the corpos and their owners at pleb expense.

[–] TheDeadlySquid@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

In future news, AirBnB has gone bankrupt due to lack of bookings.

[–] giorovv@feddit.it 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd shoot myself rather than using Airbnb again.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] giorovv@feddit.it 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Me inscribí a Feddit esperando encontrar gente mas inteligente y no los mismos gusanos que infestan Facebook. Evidentemente me equivocaba.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

then obviously you missed the /s that carried over.
/sarcasmo

[–] giorovv@feddit.it 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well I didn't even know the meaning of that "s"!

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago

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you are one of today's lucky 10,000

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This 100%.
AirBnB used to be cheaper than a hotel. Then it got so easy to tack on fees and ridiculous requirements that you're basically paying more than a hotel to housekeep your own room. Mix in lots of shady hosts and most of the time I'd rather just stay at the Hilton for the same price.

It can still be useful as a novelty, like book a party house somewhere or as easily cheaper way to house an awful lot of people. But for the most part, I'll pass.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Airbnb was started to offer up your free space to someone for a night for a bit of cash, and that was it. Then the morons found out and bought whole ass houses specifically to rent out on Airbnb.

People ruin everything.

[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes. This is the origin. Airbed and Breakfast.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

TIL what "Air" means in the brand name.

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yup. I used AirBnB when they first started and it wasn't terrible but then it became a huge hassle. Don't give me a list of chores and then I might get penalty fees if I don't do them right. Plus all the other damn fees. I don't even bother to look at ABnB any more

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

those happened all the later in its years airbnb, yea airbnb probably saw a way to gouge people more money

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

the enshittification of a decent thing

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah exactly. I'm on vacation, if I wanted to do chores I would have stayed home. Plenty of choice to do right here.

[–] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 98 points 2 days ago (1 children)

DUMP AirBnB right away. They are kissing Trumps ass all the way. The CEO is very... very proud to be part of DOGE. Fuck them.

[–] JovialSodium@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 days ago

Gross. I didn't know that. I do occasionally use AirBnB. I'm aware of their impact on the rental market, so I favor hotels most of the time. But there have been a few occasions in recent years where I was traveling in a larger group and an AirBnB made more sense. But no more of that.

I looked in to this a little, and Joe Gebbia is no longer the CEO, but he is still on the board. Still a good enough reason to boycott.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

I stopped using their site for anything years ago. This was one of the main reasons. Too little too late for me.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 130 points 2 days ago (14 children)

I read that airbnb lead to rents rise, because it made it so easy for landlords to run their property like hotels. I don't use them, and kind of think lowly of people that are like "well it's convenient so i don't care".

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 78 points 2 days ago (13 children)

This. They help destroy housing markets.

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 64 points 2 days ago (3 children)

While Air B&B has done irreperable harm to the housing market, I'm not 100% convinced it should be banned. I propose if a house operates as an enterprise, it be taxed according to commercial rates, not residential. It would go a long way to resolving the inequities.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this. it should be taxed like any other hotel/motel

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[–] primemagnus@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 days ago (5 children)

TOO LATE!

These companies are unbelievable. Create the most predatory system on the planet and when their bottom line tanks they turn around like they didn’t create the very thing they now want to “fix”.

Anyone have an ETA on the rocket to the sun?

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[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 63 points 2 days ago (8 children)

5 years too late, hotels have been cheaper and better for a while now. All of these companies that touted revolutionizing industries have just become worse versions.

Netflix, airbnb, uber, etc all of them are worse for people than the things they replaced

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Richard Wolf had a very good take on all of these Silicon Valley "disruptors". It's basically been the neoliberal US american MO for the past quarter century:

Step 1: get a bunch VC money by promising the moon

Step 2: "disrupt" by undercutting the established moon due to lack of regulation. Even though it's an inferior product, it's VC subsidised, so it's cheaper than the established businesses.

Step 3: due to lack of regulation, your business drives established operators to bankruptcy. This is basically dumping but the regulation hasn't caught up.

Step 4: become the monopoly and suck as much money as possible from your customers to generate "shareholder value"

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[–] 4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I share a lot of of the criticism towards AirBnB. However, I've often ended up using them either way. We travel with a dog and a toddler. They need to be allowed in the first place. And ideally we get a kitchen, a separate room so we can still have normal noise and light when the kid sleeps. Often we even find Airbnbs with toys, kids books, dog beds, treats on the table when we arrive, ...

You simply don't get that in hotels. At least not in a price range I've considered so far

[–] FunnyUsername@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (6 children)

i don't think people need to justify Airbnb's, it's a great alternative to a hotel for many reasons including those you listed. What needs to be addressed is the damage the shareholders who are running the company are doing to society. let's not give them too much credit about this choice: they are still sucking up homes from homeowners and removing money from the middle class. they only made this change because someone realized it will make them more money.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

especially corporate landlords are even worst, they are doing the same,.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I must admit that I am biased in that regard, but still I believe blaming Airbnb is mostly a distraction. Even in the worst of the worst places like Barcelona they reach around 10% of rental properties. Usually it’s a few percent in touristy places and much less everywhere else. Is it good for renters? Of course not. But it’s not the biggest factor, by far.

Now if I look at the whole rental market in my country, Germany, what’s on Airbnb is just a drop in the bucket. And still people are struggling to pay rent, especially in the cities. Even in those places that nobody in their right mind would go as a tourist unless threatened with serious physical harm.

Rents here started increasing uncomfortably after rental properties owned by local governments were privatized for a quick buck. Those new, publicly traded companies quickly raised rents sharply, because of course they have to earn back what they paid for the properties, plus a nice payout to investors. For the last two decades they have continued raising rents, neglecting maintenance and bought each other until now we the biggest company alone has almost half a million rental units, in a country of 80 million people. Of course, they don’t own three houses in villages here and there, but whole blocks in cities, with local market shares of up to 25%. That is much more significant than a few percent that are lost to tourism.

And don’t get me started on cost of construction, the chronic lack of new buildings, empty real estate owned by speculators or money launderers,… or I might rant again 😉

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[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Wouldn't this make Americans uncomfortable, they aren't used to seeing the actual cost of something until one step away from checkout, or sometimes not even then.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Any alternatives? Especially European?

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

hotels/hostels?

Airbnb turns potential living space into hotel space and thereby helps driving up housing prices. The whole concept is inherently problematic.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Not quite hotel space as I have yet to find a hotel that can accommodate several families traveling together with a shared space, including a fully stocked kitchen, washer and dryer, parking, etc. There's definitely a demand for something like this that isn't filled in any other way.

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