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[–] laucha@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

I don't care about the AI panic, I think this style combined with stencil could be a simple —and fun— way to create propaganda out there

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"They blame AI so you won't blame billionaires"

[–] cat@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

I wonder what material conditions led H.B. to design this poster! I can definitely feel the artist's frustration through this piece. Could you please link their socials?

[–] senseamidmadness@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 week ago

AI image generation is a bourgeois product designed to kill artists by starvation. Stop using it.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev -1 points 1 week ago

This message has been told again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again, sometimes with slightly different wording, different visuals

But instead of using one of the already existing versions of this post, someone decided to use a machine to create the most boring version i have seen

[–] the_q@lemm.ee -5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Lol using AI for an anti capitalism post is hilarious!

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How is this any different than the "you criticize society, yet you exist in it" rhetoric?

[–] yvuur@ani.social -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

you don't need to use ai to live

[–] KrasnaiaZvezda@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Having AI being used to improve our lives and our material reality seems like a very good idea to me though...

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How is it improving our lives?

[–] KrasnaiaZvezda@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Me and a lot of people I know use it to help learning new things, for example. Who wouldn't like a personal teacher to teach you what you need? That seems very useful to me.

[–] yvuur@ani.social -3 points 1 week ago

that is an assumption you are allowed to have, which has very little to do with comparing a auxiliary piece of technology with the entire status quo of society.

machine learning has already been used very successfully in areas where it made sense, like protein folding. I'm sure more fruitful use cases will come in the future.

this whole tech-bro fueled generative "ai" crap, however, is just a sick bubble that is stealing from everyone and delivering only masticated generated crap, actively making everything worst and rupturing the fabric of reality.

it's peak late stage capitalism, trying to remove the little that is left of humanity from the system.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev -3 points 1 week ago

But how would AI image generation even come close to improving anyones life?

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You don't need lemmy either, yet you post on it to make this argument. Curious.

This type of thing is reminiscent of when people say "you criticize capitalism, yet you post your criticism on twitter using iphone."

Ultimately, no matter the intention, invalidating in this kind of way loses sight of the message itself. It may be that drawing in this kind of nonsense "gotcha" is a reason not to use AI images for messaging, but people come up with all kinds of attempted gotchas regardless, so it's hard to take it seriously. To some extent, you are always going to be depending on and using the society's tools, even when opposing what it's doing, so if there's going to be an argument there against AI use for messaging, it really needs to be better than "it's not an essential need for human life."

[–] yvuur@ani.social -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

uh? I never complained about lemmy, though...

you are seriously not understanding what people mean by "you criticize society, yet you exist in it". you're comparing a auxiliary piece of technology with the entire status quo of society.

using generative crap, which is born from the theft of millions of unwilling participants, to send socialist or humanist message is just plain ironic.

it's like waving a peace flag made from human skin.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But using a computer made from exploitative systems of production and distribution as part of a global capitalist supply chain to post on a website is free of any attachments to exploitation, right? You don't seem to understand that simply pointing at generic "it's connected to capitalist bad" argument does not really mean anything, when capitalism's reach is so far and so difficult to avoid. Also, comparing training on artists' work without getting their permission to a flag made of human skin is not only unjustifiably gross shock value rhetoric, it's trivializing of actual barbarity that is ongoing in the world, like, I don't know, migrant children being separated from their parents.

There are reasonable criticisms of generative AI. This isn't it. It's garden-variety "you're a hypocrite" stuff that comes out sounding like concern-trolling.

[–] yvuur@ani.social -4 points 1 week ago

dude, you could take a piece of paper and draw it. on the other hand, you can't reasonable live nowadays without a computer.

[–] LeniX@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Completely ignoring the gist of the message while pointing and laughing at the tool that was used to create it. Brilliant.

[–] the_q@lemm.ee -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The message is what makes it so ironic. I get it though... I'm surrounded by pro AI folks. You guys keep using a product designed with stolen data that uses an unreasonable amount of energy to continue virtue signaling on socials for views and engagement. Pathetic.

[–] LeniX@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is some really idealistic brain worms with no analysis of the current system...

"AI", as much as I personally dislike the term, is already here. You can't go back after you already have it. The only thing you can change right now is what to use it for. And if you make an argument akin to "if only all people collectively decided not to use this power-hungry tech and save the planet" - that's not how our society works.

Sure, we'd like to not roast the entire planet with this techbro, stolen data Silicon Valley bullshit, but that's well beyond our control.

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Stolen? Copying isnt theft, IP isnt real

[–] chickennuggies@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago

No consumption under capitalism is ethical, so stop getting your head in a loop, take the message and sit with it

[–] markinov@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago

The issue isn't AI. The issue is private ownership of AI