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She's really one of the coolest women in history, isn't she?
16-year-old seduces adult nazi to shoot him in the woods during military occupation is slightly less family friendly than Spiderman, at least from what I remember about Spiderman
At least, it would have been a nice side plot in "Inglorious Basterds".
Oooh, a reference to her, even in passing, would've been neat.
"The Nazi bastards are on high alert. Soldiers keep going into the woods to bang some broad and end up banged themselves. Stupid fuckers keep going out there. I guess their dicks override orders"
Not if she says, "For Uncle Ben!" before pulling the trigger.
They'd much rather you follow the legendary tales of Batman whose complex moral dilemma hinges upon not directly getting blood on his own hands even if it means keeping mass murderers alive to continue to terrorize the population.
Batman as a superhero is basically a libertarian wet dream: a defense contractor billionaire who may be complicit in all forms of mass violence but maintains the thinnest veneer of plausible deniability personally.
What's hilarious is even in most of the fiction the libertarian wet dream of Gotham is a dystopian shit hole.
There've been Batman comics where he admits that he knows he could do so much more to improve Gotham than by beating up criminals but he's fundamentally broken (to the point where he considers Bruce Wayne to be the alter ego of Batman rather than the other way around), so he just keeps punching things.
Yeah but like, he doesn't do anything with that revelation. Realizing you're part of the problem is only the first step, you have to actually follow through with more steps after that.
Yeah, while I like Batman to an unhealthy degree, I'll never miss an opportunity to shit on what a horrible character he is.
Batman gets comic books and movies because he's someone for us all to aspire to: being so rich and removed from reality that you don't realize that you're the creator of your own enemies. Being so fantastically wealthy that you can't see how you're causing a wealth gap that forces people to turn to crime so they can afford housing and food. Making it so that mentally ill people—who gain powers from desperate paid experiments, suffer workplace accidents due to poor worker's rights, or birth defects due to proper healthcare inaccessibility—can't access therapy and medication until they're already labeled as criminals and are forced to be under the state's care. And then he dresses up as a monster and beats the shit out of all of them at night. Batman and Bruce Wayne get comic books and movies because we applaud them for proving that they recognize that flattening the wealth gap will solve many problems by funding social services such as orphanages, but then missing the mark by privatizing what should be public services and funneling your largest donations through things like "charity auctions" and the ballet, an art form so removed from the lower classes that you beat the shit out of the poor just for showing up at a performance because they're obviously unable to afford a ticket.
You wanna celebrate a woman who fucks a few monsters and then shoots them in the woods? That's fine, but you gotta make a few minor changes: the woman has to be a man who is super strong instead of sexy, s/he needs to fight the disenfranchised rather than legitimately evil people, and they have to show their softer side by only permanently maiming these poor people instead of killing them. AKA, Batman.
Because she's a revolutionary, and Batman is a billionaire defending the status quo. You can't have people being inspired into revolution.
A few days ago Margot Friedländer died at 103. Her entire closer family died in the holocaust after the USA, China and Brasil denied then immigration visa. She, as a teenager, was able to hide for quite a while but was finally ratted out by a jewish Gestapo spy and deported to a concentration camp. She met her future husband in the KZ and immigranted to New York later on, living a regular life until her husband died in 1997. She then started to write and moved back to Germany in 2010 (as a 89 year old!) and visites countless schools to talk about her experiences with the students and received countless medals, prices and acclaim. She was pictured on the German Vogue magazine in 2024 and later on continued her speeches until two days before her dead - her last speech was at the celebrations for the end of the WW2 in Germany.
We need more motion pictures about people like her. Not about another billionaire superhero who is unable to work in a team to save the world.
Because she was real. And much more powerful. I had the honour to attend a event she spoke.
Hard to draw out repeatedly flirting with nazis and killing them
The movie would suck as they try to tie in a love interest and plot
… fuck me they’d humanize one of the Nazis
.... you do realize Nazis were humans, right?
This is literally one of the most important lessons from Nazism. That anyone, any normal human, loving father, mother, son, can become a monster if the circumstances are right.
God, no wonder fascism is on the rise again if the lessons of it were forgotten.
Maybe the the wrong word. Maybe they should have said they would make one sympathetic?
I'm not sure. That could actually be a nice Idea.
Make the audience sympathise with the Nazi, maybe even identify with him. Then show his gruesome actions. All while having him remain being a wonderful father/brother/whatever.
This stark contrast, this shock might help them realize that everyone, even them, are prone to falling for fascism and cause them to think about their relationship with this most gruesome of ideologies. It might show them that Nazism doesn't come from the outside and occupies the country but that instead it comes from the inside, form ourselves, our neighbours and our family members, whom we never would think it possible of.
Or, because the US has shit media literacy, they come away thinking "see? Nazis weren't monsters after all" and go to their next rally.
Good. They should make them seem as human and sympathetic as possible, show the entire slide of emotional manipulation that made otherwise normal people adopt a narrative and made them believe themselves doing right and good as they did atrocities or stood by while their leaders and peers did atrocities.
And then kill 'em anyway. Because there are consequences for being dumb, and we don't show that enough.
There’s plenty to go on. It’s not like they had no life except flirting with and executing nazis.
Excerpt from the wp page:
During World War II, the Oversteegen family hid a Jewish couple in their home.[3] Freddie Oversteegen and her older sister Truus began handing out anti-Nazi pamphlets, which attracted the notice of HaarlemCouncil of Resistance commander Frans van der Wiel. With their mother's permission, the girls joined the Council of Resistance, which brought them into a coordinated effort.[2]Freddie was fourteen years old at the time.[3][4]
Oversteegen, her sister, and friend Hannie Schaft worked to sabotage the Nazi military presence in the Netherlands.[5] They used dynamite to disable bridges and railroad tracks.[6] They also smuggled Jewish children out of the country or helped them escape concentration camps.[2]
The Oversteegens and Schaft also killed German soldiers, with Freddie being the first of the girls to kill a soldier by shooting him while riding her bicycle.[1][5] They also lured soldiers to the woods under the pretense of a romantic overture and then killed them.[1][5]Oversteegen would approach the soldiers in taverns and bars and ask them to "go for a stroll" in the forest.[2][5]
Because the superhero movies are thinly veiled propaganda for billionaire exceptionalism. Empowering the average person is disruptive to your peasant caste you're not allowed to talk about openly. It is such an engrained cultural taboo you can't even register what I am saying as real, despite it being so obvious that there are classes of people completely disassociated with life as you know and live it. The only exceptional people are the exceptionally greedy and exceptionally unethical. Ms. Oversteegen is a hero like Luigi, someone that stands above our station in life. Such stories are not told or popularized much at all.
There's one ad I saw where someone asks one guy riding a fancy car, "So what's your super power?" and the guy replies with, "Being rich" and the immediate cuts to epic action scenes. Just a tiny bit on the nose. 🙄
Empowering the average person is disruptive to your peasant caste
Interestingly enough, I think it's more useful to make people want to be and believe they can be rich. They'll actively defend the wealthy if they see them as future peers. I mean, I think that's why even lowly MAGAts defend tax breaks for the rich even if very few of them make over 100k.
Two chance events prevented Gibson from succeeding: First, Mussolini happened to turn his head to look at a group of nearby students who were singing a song in his honor. This caused the bullet to graze the bridge of his nose rather than hit him square in the face. Second, though Gibson fired another bullet, it lodged in her pistol. By that point, she had already been dragged to the ground by a mob.
History's really rhyming here.
I want Quintin Tarantino to work with the people who made the 2011 Hanna movie.
Instead of Christoph Waltz finding and killing Jews, it’s a demon child finding and killing Nazis.
This is the type of hero we need in modern times. Sadly, she would be the wrong gender for most of the MAGA politicians.
Also, being an adult would turn the majority of them off
If i remember correctly she first killed a German officer at 16 or 17, though that might ~~false~~ urban legend
Still too old for most gop
That'd be actual history porn.
Actually, that'd probably hit all the right notes for some people. It's historical, so they can pretend they're watching it to learn something. It's 'female empowerment' at a certain angle, so they can pretend they're watching it for the feminism. It's anti-nazi, so they can feel righteous about the violence, especially the Americans. With all that going, people could watch it 'for the plot' again and again.
There is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_with_the_Red_Hair_(film) about her friend Hannie Schaft.
The face that shot a hundred Nazis.
Quentin Tarantino were the heck are you with this?!?!
The main actress will definitely lead them through the forest with no shoes on.
does nobody google anything before making memes?
here’s a movie about her: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt29931730/
PRE-PRODUCTION
Call me when it’s real.
It's not a movie because the wealthy don't want people getting ideas.
She's like Dexter, the best kind of serial killer
Becau$e rea$ons.