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[–] d_cent@lemmy.world 119 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's impossible to work 3000 hours of overtime in a year. This is fraud. If that person is actually working those hours, then it's incompetence by the Sergeant above them allowing them to work that many overtime hours for no reason.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

14.47 hour days to the maximum legal amount of days before days off. And working on holidays is time and a half or double time by default as well. Could be done. Not good, but not fraud.

The trick I read before is to arrest someone at the end of your shift, then you have to process them at overtime and possibly wait for a judge or something. They know the tricks to draw it out.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Of course why didn't I think of arresting someone just to get overtime? Probably because I'm not a fucking psychopath

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[–] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Cops at my hospital are all in overtime. They bring in inmates for psych holds/psych eval and then supervise them hands-off for the entire hospital stay. Easy money. Then the really entitled ones try to act pushy and basically want us to give the patient shots for unjustified reasons. Just so they can sit and watch movies without being bothered.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

They must already get a hazard pay designation by being there, or else they'd be looking for ways to create hazards. So it could be worse.

[–] albert180@piefed.social 35 points 1 week ago

He surely did work 11,5hours everyday additionaly to his regular shift 🥴

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Think about a surgeon. We put peoples lives in their hands. We expect them to be preposterously educated, able to perform extreme tasks under significant duress, to maintain ongoing technical and specialized training, to prove that the training is effective, and they are compensated accordingly. If they fuck up, they can be held personally liable for their fuck ups. There are consequences to the career and its not a role to be taken on lightly.

Hear me out.

We raise the amount we pay cops to 1.5 million dollars a year... but.

No qualified immunity. It no longer exists (guess what? it already doesn't exist for military service members). Any crimes they commit, the consequences are 10x'd and they are no longer allowed to engage in public service, ever. They can be publicly executed for any crimes beyond misdemeanor. They have to pay for their own equipment. They have to carry liability insurance for any violations of civil rights which might occur in the line of performing their duties.

The minimum qualification is a PhD in constitutional law. They need to be able to run a 6 minute mile, do 100 push ups in 2 minutes, 200 sit ups in 2 minutes, and 80 burpees in 2 minutes. They need to be able to carry 120 lbs for 10 minutes up an incline. They need to be able to recite the US Constitution, the state constitution, and the local city and county charters where they are stationed. They are expected to have advanced knowledge of any and all laws they are expected to be enforcing. They have to undergo annual psychological, physical, technical, and legal reassessments to prove their suitability for the job; these reassessments are maintained as a part of public record.

We 10x the pay and we hire 1/10th the number of cops. It becomes a career path somewhere between than a doctor or a lawyer or an astronaut. Its not something a HS drop out should be able to consider as a career path.

Look, obviously, hyperbole. Or is it?

[–] bishbosh@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago (9 children)

What about this, instead we just take that 1.5 mill a year and put it towards things that actual solve problems, rather than making sure we have the best and brights super soldiers doing traffic stops and taking notes on your break in.

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[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Maybe I'm too easy to please but I'd be happier if they took the money that currently goes towards tanks and "how to shoot first" seminars and put it towards ongoing education for officers on law, de-escalation tactics, and critical thinking in stressful situations.

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[–] lazyViking@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The problem is not getting paid overtime for time spent working wtf. The problem is being the fucking worst??

[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

3000 hours OT would mean over 5000 hours worked or 14 hours every damn day of the year.

#doubt

Even if true, that’s terrible management from a budgetary view (they could hire a second person for less cost) and an operations view (stretching a “high stress” position very thin).

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

terrible management from a budgetary view? are you kidding? where are we supposed to spend all this money? feeding the poor? housing people? if we do that, where will the cops find the resources to arrest people for feeding the the poor and also shoot the homeless? they work so hard.

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[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

They are almost certainly not actually working that much though. Look up the recent Massachusetts state police overtime scandal.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

True heroes, these rich cops. Not like schoolteachers, who are suspicious villains and possibly freeloaders, am I right?

*sigh

Not incentivizing our teachers/academics/social workers but highly incentivizing cops is going to devastate our country's output soon.

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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cops be living in the 60s:

  • Has a low skill job
  • Earns enough to buy a house and feed the famiky on a single income
  • Easily get away with murder
  • Twice as easy if it was a black person
  • Easy access to drugs
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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds corrupt but they're the police so...I guess not?

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Law in the US ceased to exist on January 20, 2025. The rest of us are just going through the motions until the reality catches up. (So, while in the past, something might have happened, now, they will get medals.)

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[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Okay, fuck it, I'm getting out of this software engineering thing, I'm moving to the US to become a cop. I think I'm white enough for Trump, definitely whiter than he is.

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Here's a test for you:
There's a chunk of cash in an envelope. Do you take it?

A non white person could be close by at any moment, are you fearing for your life?

You're walking outside and you hear a dog bark in the distance. Are you shooting wildly in the basic direction of the sounds?

You've just killed an innocent person and been given a ~~paid holiday~~ whoops, I mean 'suspension', where would you like to go?

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I've eaten oranges whiter than he is

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That "No Tax on Overtime" pitch makes perfect sense now.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We need to cap police OT. They are making off like bandits.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Best part is, they're either overreporting it, or they're legitimately dangerous to society from being so overworked in a job that already seems to put them on edge.

I have no quarrel with people being paid for their overtime (in fact, it would be shady for overtime to NOT be paid out), but I don't think 19 hours of overtime per week over the course of an entire year (or 20 if they take 2 weeks off a year) for police officers is OK. Tbh I don't think it's OK for anyone who doesn't earn dividends or bonuses based on company profits, but it's even less OK for police.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah they definitely take it all. Usually just parked out side a gated community taking a nap or "working" the sideline at a sporting event or any number of other bullshit like "helping" at the dui checkpoint in the middle of the night chilling in the big air conditioned trailer maybe also napping. My buddy is a statie in another state overtime is plentiful but not actual hard police work like overtime at your job is just more of your job. For police it's just paid hang out

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[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

No wonder that cop in Parks & Recreation moved to San Diego.

[–] Cjwii@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

For some reason my lemmy app glitched as I was scrolling and I was seeing this title above This post

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 6 points 1 week ago (19 children)
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[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Since you can be 'too smart' to be a cop, can we get them to remove the america's finest from their cars and gear? Clearly that is no longer the case.

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