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The attack on the 50-year-old executive—allegedly by the now 27-year-old Luigi Mangione—immediately sparked an outpouring of public fury not at the gunman, but at UnitedHealthcare itself.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 26 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I can't even start to understand how a healthcare organization has a stock price. They should be nonprofits to start with.

[–] x0x7@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

And this brings up the other thing they are struggling to recover from. They were sued by blackrock for taking care of people too well.

Blackrock, that investment firm that you can't even divest from because your pension is tied to it. Which really peels back some layers on root cause analysis. Because blackrock and vanguard get management of this money pretty much by default when there is an institutional pension they have fuck you money. As in fuck you, it's my money till 40 years in the future.

The Healthcare United CEO is just middle management. All he's doing is taking orders in hopes doing that enough means his company survives. If he doesn't then the private equity firms and banks just fund the guy who will.

Larry Fink is the real management.

[–] scbasteve7@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

They weren't sued for helping take care of people. It was a misleading headline. Theyre getting sued for failing to commit to taking care of stock holders.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Prosecute United Healthcare for murdering their policy holders.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Literally murdering. They were asking healthcare providers at assisted living facilities to change elderly patients' records to add DNRs that the patients hadn't authorized.

Literally altering medical records to make sure people die instead of costing money.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 81 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

However, while it's understandable for consumers to get angry at their health insurers, it is also important to remember "there is no easy answer" for such companies as they navigate costs and care, Jonathan Gruber, a professor of economics at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, told Newsweek.

There is a very easy answer. Eliminate the health insurance companies. They do not improve healthcare and serve only to increase costs by extracting profit.

[–] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 1 points 7 minutes ago

Luigi offers an easy answer

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 29 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The profit motive does not belong in any industry of necessity.

The capitalists have metastasized into education, Healthcare, and bastardized any and all forms of food to maximize profit at the expense of their humanity.

They've brought us to our knees, and before the capitalists are done, death will be a mercy to most.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Education in the US was at its height when it received ample public funding.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 17 hours ago

death will be a mercy to most.

In the future, it will be a privilege to die, at least the way this train currently going

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

They are a wholly unnecessary middleman extracting a rent where none is due. They slow down the speed of care and needlessly complicate a very simple system.

It should not exist. They're the landlords of medicine. Entirely pointless and nothing more than a detriment to the profession, service, and function of healthcare no matter if its picking up a z-pack for bronchitis or having a tumor removed. Healthcare insurance serves no purpose whatsoever.

[–] hr_@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

I'm not a specialist of the US healthcare problem but if we believe Marc Cuban, insurance is not the biggest cost problem.

[Masters of Scale] Rapid Response: How Cost Plus Drugs is revolutionizing pharma, with CEO Alex Oshmyansky #mastersOfScale https://podcastaddict.com/masters-of-scale/episode/187310275 via @PodcastAddict

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

A single, (truly) non profit insurer that has no ability to deny coverage and is fully funded by income tax could have an administrative purpose.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Bold of the writers to chose the word "Recover" as related to Luigi. Could have been something like, "United Healthcare Struggles to Resume Exploitation After Luigi" or "Unites Healthcare Struggles to Interfere with Healthcare after Lugi".

[–] _core@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

Pretty sure their struggles aren't b/C of Luigi. It's b/c they murder people.

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 6 points 18 hours ago

The Shakespeare of our time

[–] notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Fucking excellent. Hope we see a hundred more Luigi’s.

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 4 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

If they happen, the media will never let us see them. Just assume it's happening and we're all fed up with this shit.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't this headline a bit legally sketchy being at he's not been sentenced yet

[–] SoloCritical@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This comment is legally sketchy being that in order to be sentenced you need to be guilty? He hasn’t been found guilty yet.

[–] Padit@feddit.org 12 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

ESPECIALLY, since he was at my place, playing PS5 with me, when the Murder allegedly happened!

[–] UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com 2 points 14 hours ago

united health ceo shot hisself

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And either before or after he was at my place vibe coding some fixes for civ6. Guy is a real GOAT.

[–] RedditAdminsSuckIt@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

I was there when the murder happened. It was a one armed man. This whole thing is a witch hunt.

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago

Free Luigi, and compensate him with a few million dollars from United Healths bloated coffers for inflicting so much anguish on this innocent young man.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

Oh no...

Anyway

[–] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

If only he had been born a corporation, they would only have charged him a fraction of any profit he made doing it.

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 84 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The United Healthcare AI that killed your grandmother and mine is still at large.

We can talk about Luigi's alleged crime once this systemic violence is deposed.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 12 points 23 hours ago

AI is just like the "illegals" that "stole" your job. Profits dictated that the company hire someone for much less than you. AI didn't invent itself to steal your job. AI didn't wake up and decide it's gonna let Grandma die in the nursing home. The company let AI do it, set the guidelines in which AI would come to that conclusion and ultimately pointed AI at every customer and hit the on button.

Please don't manufacture this as an AI crisis. It's a healthcare crisis caused by greedy people. End of story.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 89 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I love reading a feel-good story.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We gotta take anything we read on media sites like Newsweek with a shovel of salt. Newsweek is a shadow of its former self.

That said, yeah United's stock evaluation took a huge hit. But it's still higher than it's been in decades. It's likely to turn around as these kinds of companies have a lot of tricks for restructuring and continuing business as usual. We have a long way to go before we see these kinds of companies actually fear the people they're supposed to be serving.

[–] frankpsy@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly don't trust Newsweek at all. Kept on promoting the idea that Biden totally had the election, comforting lies is all they provide and I don't read the news to feel at ease.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 22 hours ago

Regime propaganda. Ton of that happened on many communities on fedi too.

[–] Proles_Uprising_Now@lemmy.world 108 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Great news and this comment would get me banned elsewhere and that's why I am here .

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 17 hours ago

I'm pretty sure lemmy.world will ban you for "promoting violence", but it probably varies by community.

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