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[–] LaterRedditor@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Jokes on you for crawling mostly synthetic text?

[–] g0nz0li0@lemmy.world 219 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I hope they lose this case badly.

For the concerns I have about AI and stealing others work, I want to see Reddit burn for pretending that they are all about community and connection, while actively harming their users’ experience on the platform and attempting to profit off their content.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Yeah, something about a company making billions of dollars off completely user generated content and moderation just runs me the wrong way. As much as I hate Facebook, they at least pay people to do moderation there, and regularly update their site (as shitty as it is). I dont use either anymore, and I hope they die in a pit of flames owing billions to their shareholders.

[–] dan@upvote.au 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As much as I hate Facebook, they at least pay people to do moderation there, and regularly update their site

Facebook pays content creators too (https://creators.facebook.com/earn-money ), including for things other than videos (like photo/image posts). Platforms like YouTube do too, but as far as I know, Reddit doesn't.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

No matter who wins, everyone loses.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 147 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I can't believe you beat me to this. Well done.

You've fallen for one of the classic blunders!

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 85 points 1 week ago (5 children)

In the filing, Reddit calls Anthropic a “late-blooming artificial intelligence (‘AI’) company that bills itself as the white knight of the AI industry,” alleging that “it is anything but.”

“This case is about the two faces of Anthropic: the public face that attempts to ingratiate itself into the consumer’s consciousness with claims of righteousness and respect for boundaries and the law, and the private face that ignores any rules that interfere with its attempts to further line its pockets.”

I mean, Reddit's objection is that they want to sell the same data to Google to do the same training.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I dunno, it just reads like a reddit comment to me. 🤣

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago

They actually quite that in a real legal filing?

Jesus.

Did they ask /r/pettyrevenge to write that?

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[–] Leet@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 week ago (13 children)

So if reddit wins, that means the content is theirs. So if the content is theirs, they are liable for any content that is illegal. Is that true?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

yes to both regardless of this lawsuit

The wiggle room for large businesses is that they remove content that violates local laws when notified of it

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 66 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This is like one of those cases where I'm kind of hoping they both lose somehow. Neither party are right in this case, Reddit is trying to claim copyright over content they have no rights to, and anthropic shouldn't be violating copyright without a licence.

But apparently you are actually allowed to violate copyright without a licence if you're an AI company because apparently llms are the future? So I guess Reddit are going to lose, which will be funny.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am squarely on the reddit should lose this side.

Anthropic may be breaking copyright, but not Reddit's copyright. Sure maybe Anthropic should be sued, but not by Reddit.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Actually this case could be a good thing. The whole question of who owns user generated content needs hashing out, because no one seems to actually know.

Obviously the logical answer would be that the people who created it own the content, but that's never been officially decided.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because that's the only common sense conclusion to make, but that doesnt make rich fucks more money

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah maybe we shouldn't have the case in the US where money rules everything.

EU get on it.

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[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Judge finds that anthropic has to pay restitution to the reddit users. Affirms that posts belong to users.

Well, I can dream.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 13 points 1 week ago

You mean Reddit, the company that would be very happy if Anthropic did the exact same thing, but paid Reddit first?

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[–] rosco385@lemmy.wtf 59 points 1 week ago

“Reddit’s humanity is uniquely valuable in a world flattened by AI,“ Lee said. ”Now more than ever, people are seeking authentic human-to-human conversation. Reddit hosts nearly 20 years of rich, human discussion on virtually every topic imaginable. These conversations don’t happen anywhere else—and they’re central to training language models like Claude.”

LMAO, reddit's days of genuine conversations between humans is long gone.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Only 100,000 times? Shit, do I need to be worried about getting sued too?

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

All porn subreddits are exempted

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Reddit is just mad that Anthropic didn't pay them

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 week ago
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes that is how capitalism works

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The Users posted for free. They didn't get paid. They should be publicly available for scraping

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[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

Long story short: They are not combatting bots on their platform. They sold training data to google and these guys aren't paying, that's why they're suing.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Spez can forever get fucked

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 26 points 1 week ago

Suck shit reddit.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

while half of reddit is infested with propaganda bots from russia.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Not just Russia.

Israel, US, China, North Korea, India and other countries... Nuclear Lobby, Fossil Fuel Lobby and countless other industry lobbyists... Private companies advertising their products...

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[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

I hope they both choke on their own bots.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"We're the front page of the Internet!"

"No, not like that..."

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

100.000 accesses isn't that much, right?

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

100,000 requests in 11 months? That's about 12.5 requests an hour

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's hardly anything. Facebook has a bot accessing my server's robots.txt multiple times a second. (My robots.txt used to say "Facebook bot go away" but now I just respond 404 to any requests from the Facebook bot. Pretend I said that all technical and stuff, it's 2 am and I ought to go to sleep.)

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Obviously Reddit isn't averse to bots scraping the site for data, just ones that aren't paying them. I'm regretting not going through and systematically deleting all my posts and comments before deleting my account, but I thought that happened automatically.

[–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

I don't regret not deleting all my comments. For me, It's a mishmash of helpful/comedic/observational comments that I don't care that they have sold off for use as training data.

But, I just got shadowbanned, because of my VPN or something, so they aren't getting any more!

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[–] tourist@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Edit: I guess great minds think alike.

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