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Source: Pew Research

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[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

Idaho….? Utah? Neutral, really?

Lookit that. The states with religious indoctrination vs states with educational “indoctrination.”

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

The point of the establishment clause is that it shouldn't matter what the majority says about religion. It should mean exactly nothing. Tyranny of the majority shouldn't be allowed to make non-Christians into second class citizens.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

That's a lot of stupid morons who pretend to care about the constitution but don't.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

That's a lot of stupid morons who pretend to care about the ~~constitution~~ bible but don't.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

What the fuck Michigan

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

If they want there is nothing stopping them from praying in school if they want, they just can't compel others to do it with them.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

As culture wars continue to brew in schools across the United States, one unconventional group is pushing for more representation in the classroom: Satanists. This has particularly caused controversy in states like Tennessee, where an elementary school formed a program for children called the "After School Satan Club." 

This program was created by an organization called the Satanic Temple, a relatively new religious movement that purports to teach "compassion and empathy toward all creatures." However, the introduction of these clubs has unsurprisingly made parents upset, while supporters of the Satanic Temple say they are working to improve the lives of children.

https://theweek.com/education/satanists-school-representation-after-school-satan-club

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

The Satanic Temple really is great. For those that haven't heard of them, check it out. Donate. Join. They use religious laws for the promotion of logic, reason, and empathy.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 61 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

A map about people who paid attention in history and government class vs those who didn’t.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

I didn't need those classes to know forcing religion onto others is the exact opposite of what Jesus wanted

[–] OberonSwanson@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. Grew up Christian and it convinced me to be agnostic. Even then, I still would never add religious beliefs to the teaching of children early in life, when they clearly lack intelligent decision making skills.

[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago

I think teaching about religion is fine and actually good for interacting with people outside your culture. Teaching of a specific religion is where you run into trouble.

I had a unit early on in school and another one in my early teens where we basically learned about the origins of a bunch of different religions and cultures surrounding them. Learned a lot about people that otherwise would seem unapproachable to me.

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 54 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I thought that the deeply religious states were more of a minority. Yikes.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

To learn anything about American politics you need a county level map.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Maine is the least religious state but for some reason is gray on the chart. I'm curious about how the question was asked in the study

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 53 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

They are. Those areas are thinly populated.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 27 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it's land that votes, not people.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago

I thought it was corporations...

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ohio and Florida are thinly populated? Texas has a large area but also population.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Ohio is mostly corn and "Hell is real" billboards.

[–] PacMan@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

You are forgetting about Grandpa’s Cheese Barn to. Also as another user mentioned it’s a highly populated state

[–] evidences@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but it also has the 7th highest population in the country and a higher population density than California, somehow.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

California is also big.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 22 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I'm saving this for when the civil war is about to break out and I need a rough estimate of where the front lines will be.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

If there's a civil war, Michigan will quickly be appropriated to Canada.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

The only states id maybe be interested in as a Canadian is California, New York and Washington (also Maine because why do they even extend so far into Québec?).

For real though, with the Democrats response to Trump, I don’t really want them anywhere near Canadian politics. They’d make our Liberals look socialist

[–] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago

Keep it, not interested.

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 1 points 7 hours ago

If it were all purely based on this map, all states in grey and brown could join canada and still be a country with a single (ok very long and hard to defend) border to the remaining US states.

[–] eecobb@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 hours ago

Also factor
Military, national & state guard, and LE bases project a zone of control
100 miles from any border is a zone of control

[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

There is no way utah and idaho are neutral here

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

You’d be surprised. The non-Christian/Non-Mormon population of those states is extremely convinced of the need for separation of church and state.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

The Mormons know what would happen to them if a true Christian theocracy arose at the federal level.

[–] qwertilliopasd@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Nothing like proximity to religious zealots to convince you that they shouldn't be anywhere near power (or children).

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Why just Christian prayers? Why not prayer in general?

Use a generic "what do you think about prayer in public schools?" survey, and then where states vote YES create campaigns to make satanic and Muslim prayer programs at schools in the states that were all for prayer lol

Because most of these places have <1% non Christians in their communities. Anything else is scary

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago
[–] Zier@fedia.io 8 points 10 hours ago

Tax the church!

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 9 points 10 hours ago

Interesting, places that many cultures and beliefs are coming led heavily oppose it, while states that are majority WASPs are for it.

Interesting that simply being around people of other beliefs can change your way of thinking.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

How was the research conducted? Their website talks about the sample size, but I didn't see how respondents were selected. They claim it's representative of the national population, but if they're cold-calling random people to ask the questions, I can almost guarantee there are going to be more older people responding because younger people tend not to answer unknown phone calls.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/religious-landscape-study-methodology/

A total of 205,100 sampled addresses were mailed survey invitations. Respondents were given a choice to complete the survey online, by mail, or by calling a toll-free number and completing the survey over the phone with an interviewer. Of the 36,908 U.S. adults who completed the survey, 25,250 did so online, 10,733 did so by mail, and 925 did so by phone.

It goes on to say the results were then weighted to get a representative demographic sample, e.g. if more older people answered, younger responders would count for more.

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 7 points 10 hours ago

The United States had a good run. I hope I see the entire West Coast secede in my lifetime.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I live in Michigan, and it's anecdotal because I tend to surround myself with secular people, but I find this hard to believe.

[–] PentastarM@midwest.social 2 points 8 hours ago

Agreed, also live in Michigan, and not that I know EVERYONE in this state, I find it really hard to believe that the state as a whole would go for this.

[–] artifex@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 hours ago

Jesus Christ.

And I say that without a hint of irony.

[–] nodoze313@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 10 hours ago
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