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[–] Bytemite@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Stephen King is absolutely the next person I think is going to have some heinous shit come out about him, like happened with Gaiman. Too many years writing in a cocaine haze, on record defenses of Woody Allen marrying the step daughter he raised, the whole thing with the ending of IT.

Not commenting on the Epstein List, tbh it's political football and I don't know if we'll ever have anything confirmed until well after anyone who could be impacted by it is gone. King's just one of those people who if you look close enough there's reasons to be suspicious, but who is such an industry giant that I think no one wants to say anything.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 14 hours ago

I mean, there is almost certainly no "The List", "2003-02-23: Donald John Trump, 3 pedophilia, paid by bank transfer".
There are terabytes of call logs, text messages, videos, photos, location logs, witness testimonies, whatever samples, and fuck knows what else.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Of all the things to publicly tell on yourself with. Damn man.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Nobody is going to release a real list because it will exclusively hurt the rich and powerful.

Trump Part 1 didn't, Biden didn't, Trump won't do it now.

There definitely is a list. Probably not a spreadsheet or a black book, but you have to make schedules and appointments work. Double booking diddlers is bad business. There are records.

What has been established by the media is that there is a list (whether true or not) and being on that list is damning. Unfortunately we're at a point where if a list is released, anyone with a brain would have to doubt it as being nothing more than a political tool, and anyone without a brain will immediately try to crucify anyone on it.

All the back and forth and hemming and hawing buys time to figure out who to put on the list. Get all the Democrat names you like, but finding enough Republicans to put on the list, but not anyone who'll rat (preferably dead) is the tricky part. Gotta make it halfway believable.

It's sad that instead of bringing the worst people in our society to justice, this will either be swept under the rug or set fire to the Reichstag.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 7 points 12 hours ago

It's definitely real, even if it is just the list of 150 Epstein associates that were unsealed years ago. If there was anything more, it ceased to exist during the first Trump administration.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

We believe the rumored client list is real now? Case documents for Giuffre v. Dershowitz have already been unsealed & released. I thought everyone was calling claims of secret, unreleased documents a right-wing conspiracy theory a few months ago. It's really hard to follow what we're supposed to think here. What's going on?

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

There probably isn't a full-on list that just lays out who was all involved, line-by-line; but to believe that there is no information and no names to be revealed is to believe that Epstein was arrested and Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison for the crime of trafficking no one, to no one, to engage in no acts.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 hours ago

is to believe that Epstein was arrested and Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison for the crime of trafficking no one, to no one, to engage in no acts

I think the released documents disclose a bit more than "no one, to no one" engaging "in no acts".

I recall speculative, right-wing theories taking off during the Biden administration, MAGA fanning the flames to stir political followers to vote, and the case documents released before Trump was sworn in. It's curious that the left who were ridiculing MAGA over this type of "deep state" rhetoric seem to be embracing it or crowding out the more critical voices.

[–] Jomega@lemmy.world 23 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (4 children)

I'd like to remind this thread not to jump to conclusions. It's not exactly unheard of for a notorious coke addict to be confidently wrong about something. I'll believe he's a sicko when I see his name on the list and not a second sooner.

Edit: Am I really being downvoted for not immediately joining a mob and instead waiting for proof? "We did it ~~reddit~~ lemmy!"

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 16 points 18 hours ago

I have a suggestion: Just assume every billionaire diddles kids anyway.

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[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't surprising really, especially after the Neil Gaiman thing, but it is disappointing.

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

??? Oh no what Gaiman thing?

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 10 points 13 hours ago

Aww man. I hate being the bearer of bad news. Turns out Neil isn't quite the feminist he pretended to be. :(

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I knew he wasn't an angel but damn. Oh well.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Stephen King is on the list.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago

I think that's the only reason for this change in tune from the guy.

IMO, it's blatant and transparent.

[–] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I think this is pretty unlikely, but will apologize if im wrong. My logic is that Trump already hates King and has openly feuded with him. Since there haven't been any criminal cases yet, it seems that whatever evidence is in the files wasn't enough for DOJ to feel like they could win a conviction, but because Trump is a petulant dumb fuck I expect he would have made Bondi bring charges for even the most tenous circumstantial evidence if it was against someone he doesn't like. But then again Trump may think the files give him leverage over anyone even barely mentioned in the files and not want to lose that leverage, so I could be absolutely wrong.

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