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[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Do anyone have that new article that was like, accusing them of genociding a desert because they turned it into a forest or some shit? I remember it form a year or so back. The reforested an area of desert and this journalist was losing him mind over it.

Edit:

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/414155

Ok apparently I posted about it and my memory is just that bad. Lmao. Thanks to comrade GrainEater for reminding me.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

The biggest criticism I've seen is that the planting project ended up being a huge monoculture of poplar trees, but that was kinda the norm back then in reforestation.

The last I heard the forest they planted was dying from a beetle infestation, and they were going to attempt a redo with a lot more species of trees.

[–] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But fostering biodiversity remains a challenge, conservationists say

Checkmate China, what's the point if you can't just magically spawn the Amazon forest

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That is a valid concern. One of the largest problems with the project was that they planted massive monocultures of single trees. Something that is extremely dangerous as a single parasite, disease, or pest could annihilate hundreds of thousands of square kilometers.

Plus monocultures limit biodiversity to an extreme capacity as the entire forest is suitable only to a very limited number of species. It’s not that the animals aren’t there to begin with, it’s that not many can survive in the mass monoculture forest.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you posted this about a year ago, that might be it

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago

My memory really is just that bad. Lmao.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 years ago

South America and Africa having lost about 13% forest coverage over 30 years is extremely sad

[–] kredditacc@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Can someone explains this map to me? The text says China leads, but the numbers say Vietnam is at 56.2%, greater than China's 40%.

[–] comfortablydumb@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, it's pretty obvious.. China is huge, Vietnam is tiny compared to it. The reforested area is, therefore, much larger in China.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also vietnam is still recovering from the war I imagine

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's hard to take care of the forest when there is still tons of inexploded murican ordnance in it.

[–] EuthanatosMurderhobo@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That and the forests got fucked up by free and democratic chemical warfare. Badly.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

"Free and democratic chemical warfare"

That's good. I'm stealing that.

[–] Franfran2424@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the forests are well recovered from the war. it was 50 years ago, and the monsoons really make growth relatively easy.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I stand corrected then.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago

The map is the forest area in 2020, relative to existing forest area in 1990 (no change would be 0%).

So, if you count by absolute area, China leads, and if you count by relative area, Uruguay leads.

[–] NikkiB@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago

It's forest added, not amount of forest

[–] Franfran2424@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

leads the increase

[–] jlyws123@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know Vietnam is a tropical country.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Franfran2424@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

much easier growth of tree coverage...

[–] ybl@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago

Why is “private forest ownership” a thing?

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hey, the US actually expanded its forests. Go us!

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

One of the few good pieces of legislation put forth have curtailed the reach and power of the logging industry and development industries significantly. This is why capitalists in the US hate the EPA.

Going by the logic of US media, it's probably abandoned towns and cities being overgrown.

Wait, it might actually be true.

Yeah honestly that’s really surprising