I’m back to Mail clients. Webmail is a compromise that didn’t work out for me well.
I use Gmail at work because I have to. It’s good for it’s company integration, but privately no thanks.
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Same for me. I'm a die-hard Thunderbird fan (it's ugly but it works lol).
Used to use TB at work until we switched to Google Workspace and they globally disabled IMAP access. Now I'm stuck with webmail and my productivity went to absolute shit.
I'm a die-hard Thunderbird fan (it's ugly but it works lol).
Have you updated to the new version 115? The UI has had a bit of an overhaul and looks more modern.
I haven't but I definitely should. Just refreshed my laptop with pop os and have been using the default mail client with it (Geary?). It is really responsive and works well with the tiling plugin.
I always liked Geary, but stuck with evolution for the EWS support my jobs have always required.
Update is still unavailable on a fair number of distributions, nor on flathub (stable release).
It is nice though. Much prefer cards if I have the preview pane enabled.
Yeah, I mostly use Thunderbird and FairEmail but it's nice to have a backup when I'm in places I can't use those, or can't be bothered setting up a new client.
I use SnappyMail which is a fork of Rainloop. It works great, has a version available for Nextcloud, AND it has a working sieve editor.
Believe it or not, NextCloud. It actually can work as an email client. And it can sync calendars, contacts and todo list too.
one year ago it was unbearably slow AND it copied hundred of thousands of emails on the database clogging everything, did it drastically improve?
Whelp, nextcloud isn't known for being fast. I don't have hundreds of thousands of emails yet so I can't comment on that, but one thing for sure is as you put more and more data on it, you'll have to add more CPU and RAM to it or it'll getting more and more sluggish.
The last few updates to nextcloud and PHP 8 have drastically improved performance for me. I'm not using the Mail app but SnappyMail, and everything works pretty well.
Older versions and PHP < 8 were pretty slow even with all of the optimizations.
What a piece of crap of webmail that is.
- NC Webmail UI is poorly designed: compose window is just a small box on the center of the screen, there’s no way to have the markup tools permanently show up;
- NC Webmail UI is broken: if you select a bunch of text and turn it into a bullet list, the bullets won’t even show up on NC, other e-mail clients will see them tho;
- Integration/SSO with IMAP is cumbersome: not well documented, default configuration doesn’t even handle a simple “login with the email email and password as the IMAP account” type of setup that is commonly expected;
- WebUI is slow and fails often: if you open the browser console you’ll find lots of warnings and errors.
I do have a lot of complaints related to mail but if NC is any kind of useful replacement for MS365 / Google Workplace a decently working webmail is the bare minimum. RoundCube is WAY better than what NC is currently offering.
I've used either SnappyMail (a fork of RainLoop) or Roundcube.
SnappyMail
why is it better than roundcube?
I'm using SnappyMail but I'm sadly missing Rainloop
I know it's a fork, but the new work seems sloppy and badly implemented. Rainloop was a brilliant UX. It's a shame it's no longer developed
SoGo
Crossbox is not bad but for individual usage it's too expensive, the pricing is for sysadmins with hundreds of users
Roundcube always! I tried others and always went back to Roundcube. If you install it properly (using composer for everything) it won't break on updates.
I finally have my email set up with Thunderbird (and K-9 on my phone) so that I have mail and calendar stuff in one place and don't use my browser for every old thing. Before that I was a brainwashed Google zombie for quite some years and used only Google webmail. It took so long to get rid of all their stuff.
Snappymail is simple and awesome if you want better webmail than roundcube, I switched and didn't look back. I am also a big fan of native apps, I'm using thunderbird on my PCs and and Fair Email on Android, both of which I am quite happy with.
I never stated that it was better. It's just another option.
As with many things, nextcloud has a good app for it. Nextcloud mail is nice.
@EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee I loved rain loop until I learned they had a vulnerability where a malicious email could compromise the system. IDK if they have fixed it but it was my favorite webmail by far. Nowadays I'm using desktop clients sadly.
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