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[-] oldGregg@lemm.ee 167 points 11 months ago
[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago

They have intentionally broken the boarding system in order to get people to pay for upgrades just to get that baggage space. During covid they boarded from the back of the plane to the front, and it was gloriously efficient.

[-] whodatdair@lemm.ee 30 points 11 months ago

Literally a shittier boarding process because it’s more profitable that way. Freeeee market! 📈📈📈

[-] Laser@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago

Back to front boarding is not that great, you want window to aisle boarding.

[-] Fogle@lemmy.ca 16 points 11 months ago

You want back to front and window to aisle. It won't help when the plane loads front to back whether it's window to aisle or not

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

https://youtu.be/oAHbLRjF0vo?si=8NRov1SyjtNxIOsF

Funnily, just opening the gates is near ideal for boarding. Doing almost any grouping slows things down more than random boarding.

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

The best boarding method would be "everybody get on" lol

[-] moistclump@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Learned that the hard way.

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[-] Alteon@lemmy.world 71 points 11 months ago

You ever have your whole trip get fucked up because you checked your bag and they lost it? I have.

Also, by queuing up like that, you get dibs on limited overhead luggage space - 15 minutes in a queue is 30-45 minutes you don't have to wait waiting for your baggage to arrive in Baggage Claim because you decided to not be one of those losers waiting for "reserved seats".

It's a good travel strategy to save time and energy later.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

You also don't have to arrive over 45 minutes early just to check your bag.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I bring 1 carry-on and 1 personal. If I have to pay, there's a bigger problem.

[-] Veticia@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

On a return trip you can just put your stuff in a box and mail it home.

Edit: Unless you live in one of those countries where putting a box in a vicinity of a home counts as delivery.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Ah yes, I too have shipped a package to literally any country on earth

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Right and getting on the plane last likely means you'll be checking that carry on at the gate.

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[-] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It also saves the checked bags fee that most airlines have these days.

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[-] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago

Nothing to do with my seat. I'll die before I end up having to check bags.

Keep sitting amateur.

[-] hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social 18 points 11 months ago

I feel the complete opposite!

It stresses me out to feel encumbered on a plane. I don't mind waiting at a carousel for a while to get my luggage if it means I can board with nothing but headphones and an overpriced pretzel.

If they lose my bags, I'll get them back eventually. It's not like they don't have stores at [insert destination].

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[-] rosymind@leminal.space 8 points 11 months ago

I always pack as light as possible. IDC if I have to wear the same 3 pairs of pants for 2 weeks. Undies are what really matter and they're small and easy to roll

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[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

As they other two comments said, it's for the overhead baggage space. Airlines need to start enforcing passengers to use their correct/allotted baggage space.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago

This is why I always make sure my carry-on fits under the seat, so I don't need to fight for overhead baggage space.

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[-] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 11 months ago

Hadn't flown in like a decade. I was in group 4 and by the time I got on the plane, there was almost no space left in the overhead bins. I only needed space for a backpack, it was a tight fit. There were still at least 2 groups left plus anyone who arrived at the gate last minute.

So yeah, you better believe I'm gonna be first in my group, put my bag away and relax while the rest take 20 minutes to file in because it's a very complex process...

True they will check your bag if it doesn't fit, that adds a delay in leaving and as others say, increases risk of things going wrong (misrouting, theft).

[-] Lt_Cdr_Data@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago

So fkn dumb. Just have markers on the floor outside, where everyone needs to stand respective to their seat and have them go in in 3 or 6 waves, one for outer, middle and inner seat each. So much less headache for everyone and so much faster.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

The result of charging for checked bags.

More people carry on as much as they can to avoid extra fees, so we get crowds standing at the gate and blocking the walking areas because they all want to be close to first in their boarding group to put their stuff in the overhead bin.

Special fuck you to the people that refuse to stow stuff under the seat, thereby taking up even more bin space with giant purses, backpacks, coats, etc.

[-] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Regarding your stow under the seat comment... I'm a tall dude. I'm cramped enough as is so I'm not putting crap under the seat in front of me as it's the only place I can stretch out. I also check my suitcase virtually everytime.

I do however bring on a carry-on relatively small backpack with my laptop. I put it in the overhead bin... not under the seat. I don't feel guilty at all. All the other people bringing the biggest ass suitcase possible, along with a backpack and maybe a purse too... they're the ones hogging space, not me with my one backpack in overhead. Seats are crammed enough. You wanna be angry, be mad at the airlines making seats so small and being bag charge crazy.

[-] aaaa@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

As another tall guy, I don't really understand.

My backpack fits under the seat, but it has no impact on what my legs can do, because that's not where the bottleneck is. I don't think legs bend that way to be able to use that space under the seat. My thighs end up wedged between my seat back and the seat in front of me, and they can't really point towards the floor there.

At the same time, there is absolutely zero chance I am letting my backpack with my laptop out of my sight. The airport already made sure I pulled it out and showed everyone that I am carrying an expensive device. If it's my device, then I paid too much to just shove it in a shared bin with strangers' stuff for a few hours. If it's my work device, then I'm not willing to risk any delay in getting my work done, because that's terribly inconvenient for me.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not sure why you felt the need to reply…people are allowed 2 carry on bags, one goes overhead and the other under the seat. If you’ve got just one, you’re game for either IMO.

Yeah, I’m over 6’, yet somehow I manage to stuff a satchel or my coat under the coach seat and not be the dick taking up all the bin space, but I dunno…maybe I’m the asshole for thinking other people are dicks for being selfish. Nobody seems to feel guilty. I mean, we can blame the airline for being greedy bastards for charging per bag driving the issue, but the same could be said about the customer who just looks for a low price thereby motivating the problem in the first place.

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[-] this@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've always thought it was completely rediculous that airlines charge a premium to board the plane sooner, like yea sure you wanna spend extra money to be on the cramped plane for a LONGER period of time? lol. Edit: I read some of the other comments mentioning getting dibs on overhead space and yea, if you're carrying on you bags that would make sense.

[-] souma@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Unless you're flying Southwest. That shit is a free for all

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

I was reading about them, it sounded like they had a "boarding group" for each individual seat? But do they say "groups 1 through 60" or something?

[-] federated_toast@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

Each ticket assigns you a boarding group, A through C, say. Each boarding group has 60 people in it. When your boarding group is called (alphabetical order) you line up in order at the gate next to a sign that has your number on it. Passengers 1 - 30 of that group board, then when the last person gets on, 31 - 60 board. Everyone gets to choose their own seat, meaning the later you board the more likely you're going to be in the back in a center (not aisle or window) seat, so boarding slows down tremendously by the last few boarding groups.

[-] laverabe@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Airlines overbook almost every flight. That means if you're not in that line, you have a good chance of getting booted off the flight. It has happened to me a couple times.

They normally give you a voucher to compensate you for the trouble that can be used on a future flight. They will typically try to rebook you (at no cost) the same day if they can arrange it.

[-] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 22 points 11 months ago
[-] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Have flown at least twice a year for two decades and never even heard of an airline overbooking a flight.

The EU would tear you a new arsehole if you tried to sell something that doesn't exist

[-] achille225@feddit.ch 6 points 11 months ago

Actually this happened to me this summer, came to board the flight and there weren't any seat left, so they told me to go to the gate in case somebody didn't show up. I was lucky enough to board the plane, but yeah, overbooking is a thing in Europe

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[-] jxk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago

Can you tell us which airline you are talking about? Never been booted out of anything.

[-] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They will usually announce that they are overbooked and ask over the local section intercom if anyone is willing to take the next flight. You can actually get cash out of it if nobody else wants to go later, sometimes more than you paid for your ticket. Plus a free ticket for the next flight.

If you're not lined up (or late) and the plane is already full, then they can't seat you and you'll have to take a later flight by default.

https://wanderwisdom.com/transportation/why-do-airlines-always-overbook-their-flight

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[-] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

You queue for overhead space so some damned Karen doesn't hog an entire bin with their carryon, purse and jacket.

[-] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago

*the karens queue so they can put their carryon, purse, 4 bags of duty free and washbag all separately in the overhead locker, only to be told by the cabin crew that everything but the carryon has to go under the seat in front of them when you arrive with your one carryon

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[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

This makes sense for Southwest, though. Absolute free for all.

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