Biden's reason doesn't even make any sense
Well you see here jack he's the leader of a country with a totally different style of government than ours
Barely even paraphrasing lmfao this guy's brain is swiss cheese
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Ehh it kinda makes sense if you agree with the idea that liberals view any deviation from Western liberalism as ontologically wrong and evil. Just jarring to see it said out loud in a diplomatic setting.
I agree but just because the quiet part is said out loud doesn't make it make any more sense lol
We are moving backwards from "Capitalism is a necessary evil because of human nature" to "Capitalism is the only good form of economy".
Agreed. The swiss cheese holes have gotten to the tact and inhibition parts of his brain.
Seriously. Biden just outwardly saying his definition of dictator is 'leader not in exactly the same way as us' is really weird.
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Look, he is. He's a dictator in the sense that he's a guy who runs a country that is a communist country that's based on a form of government totally different than ours,
May as well give the quote. Seems like, insofar as it has substance, it just circles back around to gommulism bad
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Trump would have handled this better, and I’m not joking.
Trump would wait at least a few days before calling Xi the leader of Hamas or some dumb shit.
So yeah, you're right.
Nah, Trump likes Xi. He’ll be all over the place about China, but on an individual level he can spot a winner, and he likes winners. He might even still call Xi a dictator, but he’d be like “and that’s good, because he’s a very smart man. Very smart. China is lucky to have him. Some of us aren’t so lucky, if you know what I mean.”
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He called the leader of Egypt a dictator to his face, through a translator fwiw.
Edit: ok it actually wasn't to his face. He called Sisi his favorite dictator before he arrived to an event, in front of diplomatic staff from Egypt
Trump or Biden? Equally possible. Trump meant it as a compliment, Biden because of brain rot.
Hahah fair, no I'm talking trump on this one
On one hand, getting called a dictator. On the other hand, I'm fairly sure Trump sees that as a compliment.
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Egypt is our ally right? That means he probably is a dictator. It is a safe guess. I have no actual knowledge of the situation
Yes, and absolutely
well Trump's zero sum game everything is a negotiation attitude would genuinely help here.
he might think Xi is a dictator but he also wouldn't give a shit either way
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I think that means that America failed to get any concessions from China.
The one thing they seemed to get was resumption of direct military to military hotlines. Not sure how useful that's gonna be if they piss the Chinese side off though. Not hard to order the generals to pick up the phone, listen to the yank, then say "okay" and hang up.
It's definitely useful for when the americans are doing their stupidly fucking dangerous freedom of navigation missions through chinese territory. During these missions the US ships have to turn off various monitoring equipment among other things. It's so fucking easy for one or the other side to misinterpret one another if they ever do something they're not expected to do in those situations, without communication they will default to assuming the worst and that's where it gets hairy, everyone starts shooting, and then everyone else in the region starts shooting because everyone is shooting. Launch after launch will happen because there's no de-escalation channel or way to just say "shit that was a mistake we're sorry" when something actually goes wrong.
Imagine when a ship gets spooked, does something unexpected, then some scrambled jets get shot down, then even more shit happens, and every single asset in the region just acts independently based on the information they have at hand (the ship/jets nearest to me just got blown up, we should release our payload into the target). It's a huge cascade.
Communication really matters to avoid this.
Conversely, if you know China isn't taking your calls, you have no choice but to avoid large provocations. I think refusing the back channels and forcing US foreign policy to be all out in the open was a good tactic.
You don't need to do large provocations for this cascade to occur. Freedom of navigation operations have the potential to spiral out of control extremely easily.
This video poses this scenario very well: https://youtu.be/vJXWJ-Px5tU
I don't necessarily agree with all the interpretations of effectiveness of weapons/missiles etc in this video, but as an example of how officers in charge of each of these assets will act independently on incomplete information about the situation it's a very realistic example of how this shit could cascade on a complete misunderstanding. The particularly interesting part of this begins at 6:00 but the lead up is important in establishing the list of assets in the region in the scenario. An emergency phonecall in this situation would have resulted in the US knowing "this is a mock attack as an exercise, not a real one" and the spark that lights this cascade of events would not have happened. But without that phonecall, the training exercise jets are shot down, and what follows is a cascade of events leading to devastating losses of both sides as every existing asset interprets the nearby events as existential and releases their full capabilities. Whether the interpretations of the effect of these jets/missiles are correct is not really relevant compared to understanding how this cascade could easily happen from routine exercises that happen regularly without a line of communication.
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US FONOPS are actually insane. They broke the decades-old status quo that established the Taiwan Strait as Chinese territorial waters under the CPC-KMT consensus.
I heard they did get the Chinese to stop supplying the chemicals used to make fentanyl to Mexico. (as I understand it previously Chinese companies were selling chemicals that have legitimate and legal industrial uses in larger quantities than the legal market can support, similar to how American gun manufacturors make 40% more guns than the legal gun market can support)
Really think they're fucking up by reopening the military communications link. I guess China has to to show they're the reasonable party, but the US is just going to do what they were already doing. That is, ratcheting up tensions as much as possible whenever it suits them (pelosi fucking off to Taiwan for personal gain, that whole weather balloon embarrassment) then privately calling the PLA to say don't worry bro it's no biggie we promise. And then a month later doing it all again. I just don't see what China has to gain apart from the initial PR boost.
that whole weather balloon embarrassment
speaking of that, even though the US has openly admitted that the balloon wasn't a surveillance device and didn't collect any data, just yesterday my local news station was still calling it a "spy balloon" lol
Yeah I've noticed that here too. It seems like the final stage of disinfo is for people to repeat the lie on their own without any outside influence. It's the same deal with the Uyghur thing - official government sources dropped the narrative ages ago, but you'll still hear it repeated as if it were historical fact from journalists, influencers, redditors, etc.
Russiagate was comprehensively debunked by years of bipartisan congressional investigations, and yet the idea that Vladimir Putin personally overthrew the United States government and will again unless militarily removed from power is still hegemonic among American liberals. 25 years of celebrating peaceful coexistence with the "triumph of liberal democracy" in Russia and overnight they're all Joe McCarthy swearing an eternal crusade against the hated Muscovite.
Rather than instant and comprehensive systems of brainwashing, I think this is better understood as licensing American settlers to unleash their preexisting white supremacist worldview onto a politically acceptable target. "Correcting the disinformation " doesn't eliminate the bigotry, because the disinformation didn't put it there. The "disinformation", even when they know it's bullshit, is just a social signal that they'll no longer be stigmatized for saying what they've always wanted to believe.
I couldn't agree more with that second paragraph. I think you'll enjoy this article very much https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/. All this propaganda just gives the settlers a veil to spew their hate from behind. Chuds don't really need it because they're chuds, but it gives the liberals an excuse to be just as disgusting - only they'll dress it up in smug, condescending language.
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Even the articles that came out confirming it was just a weather balloon referred to it as a "spy balloon" lmao.
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yeah same.. i pointed that out to my partner who was unaware they previously confirmed it wasn't a spy balloon
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The way he says this makes me think there's probably a whole school of thought in the establishment ghoul circles that revolves around wording things in specific ways that translators will soften or "interpret" in a way that makes them sound not as bad in alternate languages.
"he is the leader of a communist country, anyways lets move on" thats what he said lmao, fucking children politics.
Honestly not even mad, this is completely expected lol
My guess is that as soon as he heard it, Xi leaned over to his aide and whispered "Looks like I owe you a beer" into their ear.
begging Xi to clap back with "you could say the same about Biden, but you'd be wrong; he doesn't even run his country, the CEOs are the dictators"
The fuck you say about me?
Xi: "that's nice sweetie"
Damn, how do people face Biden in person and not vomit at the sight of his face
One step forward, two steps back
The video of Blinken shaking his head like “goddamnit” is pretty funny
The face of a man who knows he's about to work through the night because his boss just said something incredibly dumb.
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so catty
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