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r/europe - Head of EU Diplomacy Josep Borrell: "Europe is a garden. Most of the rest of the world is a jungle. The jungle could invade the garden" (www.reddit.com)

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[-] KommandoGZD@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Jesus Christ that top comment alone. This whole Ukraine business has changed people. Before I could watch mainstream news and read threads like that and some of it would irritate me, most of it I'd disagree with, but it was still tolerable. It was chauvinistic, often racist and ignorant, but often relatively bening. Since 24th Feb it's pure, unhinged racism, imperialism and stuff like this is bordering on ethno-nationalism.

Mainstream left and right seem to agree now that our free, social and prosperous European way of life is to be cherished.

Literal third way fascist rhetoric. Mainstream libs are getting scary man

[-] Eat_Yo_Vegetables69@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

free, social and prosperous European way of life

"Yo we stole, murdered and pillaged to get this shit fair and square, you fucking savages better not even think about living better than us! We earned it!!11"

[-] mmhhkk@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Racist fuck

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I watched Multipolarista’s video about this. It’s so fucked. How is their motive not obvious yet??? Textbook rise of fascism, we have written and studied it, yet it’s still prevailing…

[-] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Because fascism is taught incorrectly in liberal societies.

Instead of fascism being taught as a petty-bourgeois movement that the ruling class uses to violently reestablish their grip on the working class, it's taught as a mean man with a mustache saying mean things about jews while advocating for "big government."

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Shared ideals… so Europeans are good adjectives while everyone else is bad adjectives. Cool.

Borderline imperialist???

Also Russia only “invaded” when NATO fucked with their border.

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Europe, and the general west, is shaping up to go all out fascist it seems. Even the comments on the thread are full of European supremacy.

I have been mentally preparing for war for quite some time now. I know it sounds LARP-like, but I think it really will happen. And I will probably have to choose a side.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Especially funny that entire concept of "European Supremacy" won't last 3 seconds when tested and they will be at eachother throats for minor issues.

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Do we really need a full blown and open WW3?

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Entire collective voice of the west say "YES"

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Do they expect not to die in the nuclear exchange? Do they expect it to not turn nuclear?

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Now that's trickier question. Most of the internet hawks surely don't expect it to turn nuclear, they just want Russia to go away because fuck yeah murica always win or some other bullshit they believe. They also don't know a shit how the war really looks (remember the mercenaries fleeing from Ukraine at the first inconvenience and those were the more courageous and infinitely more determined members of that crowd) let alone how a fucking nuclear war looks - to be fair nobody except few ancient Japanese does and i hope no one ever will anymore.

And the rest, the total braindead morons, do really think they will be ok because they are the smartest elites of the human race - it's the same thinking as monarchists and libertarians have when they seriously propose to throw humanity in the pit of misery - they think they will be on top of the new world.

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I can understand why internet dwelling lead-huffers would think that - for reasons you have just listed. But it certainly seems like the people pushing the buttons and giving orders - Borell here for example - think the same. It's frightening. Surely he and his have better information? Surely they know just how bad things will be?

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I honestly don't know. Before the war, EU politicians average as a whole, behaved like usual you would expect, pretty rational within the constraints of imperial core bourgeoise governments, especially Germany. And now they are trying so hard to commit economical seppuku. Can't explain that really.

[-] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

This is going to be the last winter.

[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I do feel weird looking at the near future. Could be too much online time, though. But I have a feeling things won't end well and I've had it for a while now.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I bet he also have some ideas about Agent Orange.

EDIT:

The gardeners have to go to the jungle. Europeans have to be much more engaged with the rest of the world. Otherwise, the rest of the world will invade us, by different ways and means.

Holy shit, that's straight up neofascism from the darkest pit of internet

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