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Not only did the AI predict elements of whale vocalizations already thought to be meaningful, such as clicks, but it also singled out acoustic properties.
This is an amazing use of machine learning models.
Can’t wait for them to tell us to stop being fuckheads and ruining the planet
"So long and thanks for all the fish"
"end capitalism"
NOC's vocalizations were recorded and studied by a team of biologists from the National Marine Mammal Foundation (NMMF) led by Sam Ridgway. In 1984, Ridgway and others at the NMMF began to hear peculiar sounds coming from the whale and dolphin enclosure. They were reminiscent of two people talking in the distance, the words just beyond the limit of comprehension.[5] Later, a diver working in the enclosure came to the surface after he heard someone cry "out, out, out!"[1] After he asked his colleagues "Who told me to get out?", they realized it had been NOC.
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Imagine if we managed to make a translator for the speech of an animal, knowing what they say and being able to say something back. Literally speaking with animals. That would have been so amazing and revolutionizing.
Honestly? We’d just fuck it all up, and find some way to exploit it.
If they could, the first words they speak to us would likely be akin to “Fuck you!”, or “Just what the fuck exactly is wrong with you people?”
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"Do you think the human chattering means anything?"
First translation
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Sokath, his eyes uncovered.
Temba. His arms wide.
Kadir beneath Mo Moteh.
I'm too drunk to taste this chicken
THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!!!
Will and Gracie, in the tank.
Chekov, finding Alameeda
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Hell yeah, I hope it works for orcas too so I can thank the ones that have been trashing the yachts.
How do I say “I support my seafaring cetacean brethren” in Orca?
I'm learning how to sail right now. It would be great to have that sorted out before I make my way by Gibraltar.
Huge rock, can't miss it.
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So what I'm hearing is they can literally talk to each other in a way that we do and we still kill them constantly.
We kill humans constantly too, and we probably obliterated the rest of the hominins also. I’m just saying we have a chequered track record.
Are we the baddies?
While I always love a Mitchell and Webb reference, I can say I don’t think so. I think the book Humanity by Rutger Bregman is a good reminder that we are mostly good.
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I share this understanding with you and this is why I say that AI will absolutely kill us because that is what we would do. It's trained on our data afterall.
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This is big news! We've got a lemmy community specifically about Digital Bioacoustics (technology and animal communication) for anyone interested.
Oooh, look! The translation's coming through!!
Thanks... for... all... the...
...
For what? Thanks for all the what?!
“I wish I could speak whale!” - Dory
Oooooooookayyyyyyy
"So Long, and thanks for all the fish"
They probably have nothing interesting to say anyway. After a year or two all the scientists will be like "I fucking know you like krill, whale. Shut the fuck up about the krill already".
[Arthur Dent] learned to communicate with birds and discovered that their conversation was fantastically boring. It was all to do with wind speed, wingspans, power-to-weight ratios, and a fair bit about berries.
-- Douglas Adams, 'Life, the Universe, and Everything.
I kind of still want to know what I'm sleeping to.
Horny whale noises
What they're saying is: "All shall perish" as they proceed to kill people and smash yachts.
Flippity floppity y'all on my property
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So just fucking say what it is! We know they're intelligent. Just tell us how they all think we're running the planet.
They've already dispatched Orcas to send that message. We don't seem to be getting it.
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"Yoooooooouuuuuuuu guuuuuuuuuuyyyyyyysssss reallllllllllllyyyyyyy suuuuuuuuuuuuccccccckkkkkk. Exccccceeeept Garrrrrrryyyyyyy. Heeeee'sssss niiiiicccceeeeeeeeeooooooooo." -The Whales probably.
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"Who turned up the heat?"
If complete mutually intelligible communication of complex ideas with another species is undeniably proven, that will be a massive boon for veganism(although of course not all animals are equal), and a legal quagmire. What do you do if they are suffering in ways that we can fix due to their environment? Like humans were, and then we changed our environment. Do you give whales weapons so they can defend themselves from orcas? Do you shoot whale pochers? Do you shoot orcas attacking whales? Do you farm krill for them to eat? Do you drastically alter the ocean surface to be more comfortable for whales?
After all, most people recognize it as good to alter a person's natural state(hunting and gathering from caves) for the better, so would that not be the same for animals that are considered essentially people or near-people?
We don't even treat other humans on earth with dignity and respect and you think anything will change for whales as drastically as you propose? Maybe I'm mega jaded but I see this having little impact.
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Just in time for them to go extinct. It’ll be helpful in a few hundred years though when we need to travel back in time again.
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