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What makes you think you matter? You don't. Sure you have a small group of people that like you, but I don't like you because I don't know you. The person walking down the street doesn't care about you. You talk tough and that's it. You're irrelevant to the grand scheme. When the earth begins to burn you're going to burn along with the vast majority of the rest of the world. No one cares. You want to hate, fine. Do it. Where does that get you at the end of the day? No where. And you will continue being nothing to so many people. Stamp your feet, scream, cry. Do whatever you have to do. It will change nothing. You can change nothing. Regardless of how hard you try to impact people, you never will. And why is that? Because you're irrelevant. You're dissatisfied with everything and everyone around you because you can never be satisfied and that makes you miserable. So what do you do? You share your misery. You do the same exact thing that's been done to you so many times, but that's ok right? Because it's not your fault right? Everyone screams for change, but all we do is the same things over and over again. So if that's the case, why does it matter? Why do you matter? Whit makes you and your thoughts more important than the next person? You're not good enough because no one is good enough and no one ever will be.

What I find the funniest is blaming everything around you as being wrong, you're surrounded by bad people and enemies, yet you never question whether you're the problem. Don't worry about it though because it's a new minute so I'm sure you have something new to hate

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[–] Alterecho@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dang bro go read Nietzsche or Camus or smth. Learn to love the boulder

[–] oleorun@lemmy.fan 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For none of this mattering, dude replied to my comments in record time. Shrug.

[–] MoonshineDegreaser@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

There you go. Thinking you are more important than you actually are. Just got off of work, smoking a bowl, and watching King of the Hill. That's right. You're important enough to me to kill time. That's about it though

[–] MoonshineDegreaser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've read Nietzsche, and dipped in Camus, but will admit I need to read more. I'm assuming you mean Smith that's a typo in which case, I have no clue who you mean. I've also read Diogenes, Socrates, and Confucius (which I believe I am contradicting the most)

[–] Alterecho@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ay, based- the smth was an abbreviation of "something". Confucian ethics is absolutely at odds with your post lol, but Confucius isn't everyone's vibe!

I think that there's this place that a lot of people reach when grappling with the meaninglessness of existence, where they get stuck in existential despair.

My comment was glib, but the core of it was meant to be like: "keep going, keep investigating those ideas and push yourself to learn more." If you can get ahold of some Emil Cioran, Kirkegaard, Ernest Becker, and José Ortega they're good- I'd revisit Camus, then touch on Cioran first, probably. Deals a lot with absurdity and failure. Try not to get put off by the religious overtones of Kirkegaard.

Stick with it!

[–] MoonshineDegreaser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've greatly appreciated Diogenes and cynics, but living like Diogenes did isn't viable and the world is a lot bigger now then it was.

[–] Alterecho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There's been some interesting modern takes on the Greek schools of philosophy, with particularly stoicism seeing an uptick. If I had to recommend someone who was all about questioning assumptions - similar to cynical philosophy - Hume comes to mind, I think? Maybe someone else has a better recommendation than that, though!

[–] oleorun@lemmy.fan 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck, selfawarewolves and the rest of the Jaden Smith gang have arrived. Awesome.

[–] oleorun@lemmy.fan 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe more im14andthisisdeep material.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

That would be the Jaden Smith gang (he was their banner mascot).

[–] MoonshineDegreaser@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for your opinion that has zero impact on mine or anyone else's life

[–] MoonshineDegreaser@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apply what I said to your statement

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Our individual actions matters little but collectively, we impact the world around us whether we like it or not. This is a two edged sword. In return, we are shaped by the world around us. Even by choosing not to participate in society, your absence will create a ripple that affects others. Even in death, your molecules will recycle and end up in new life.

I'll give you that. And it's a very good point. I'd like to take you ripple analogy and use it.

A pebble can make a ripple. A handful of pebbles can make a bigger ripple, and without interference, that ripple can travel a good distance.

But what kind of ripple can a Boulder make? What about a bunch of boulders? What if a bunch of boulders are dropped in the water the same time the handful of pebbles are? Sure. Add more pebbles. The pebbles ripple gets bigger, but then more boulders drop in the water. The logical response would be add more pebbles.

Suddenly you realize that you are about to displace all the water, but more boulders keep coming. You stop adding pebbles and that slows it down, but boulders keep coming. You can't stop them until finally all the water is gone.

What should you have done different?

[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The problem with this is, once you're doing everything you possibly can on your individual level, you quickly see that so many others won't bother to lift a finger, or even work actively to undo all the progress. This is extremely demotivating.

I don't drive, I don't fly, I don't buy fast fashion (or barely any clothes at all), I live in a small apartment, I changed all lighting to LED-s years ago, I don't eat meat, I'm starting to smarten up my home with automation to squeeze out a little bit more energy savings.

And it doesn't help jack shit since it is impossible to get even 50% of people in the developed nations to live like that and even if we could, one multinational megacorporation still manages to do more damage than an average European country.

Sure, we could start petitions—these will be simply ignored. We could come to streets in protest—just to be beaten up by class traitors and new legislation coming in criminalizing protests and throwing anyone who dares into jail for 10+ years. Nothing will change for the world.

From this point on, the only way anyone could change anything would be to actually blow shit up—not once, but all the time, everywhere, until no polluting industry is left. That's clearly not possible to do in the era of mass surveillance.

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

On a wide enough scale, everybody dies in obscurity. No exceptions.

[–] UdeRecife@literature.cafe 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for posting this view.

I kind of empathise with you. In a way, you're right. From, say, a cosmic perspective, that males sense.

At the same, reading you felt I wasn't your target audience. Perhaps you have someone or some group in mind to whom you directed this message.

As it stands, your words seem a bit out of place. Not entirely, but somewhat. Because what you say is true in a way, but also untrue.

It's a bit like looking at a coin from one side. If I say the coin is only like that side I'm seeing, I'm not being entirely correct, right? So that's the thing. I feel you're failing to acknowledge the other side of that coin.

But, anyway, who am I to know what you had in mind? If posting this was in any way meaningful/beneficial to you, more power to you.

[–] Poob@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly it seemed like they were yelling at themself

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will (definitely) not the "The next Brad Pitt"... but I'm not gonna throw the towel and cross my arms and whine about it constantly.

Why?

Because that will not make my life (and everyone else's) better.

Embrace (and love) what you already are....right now. Even if you are really sad, or depressed.

Why?

Because that -WILL- make your life (and everyone else's) better.

[–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have any hobbies or activities you like to do or look forward to?

[–] MoonshineDegreaser@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I enjoy photography. Don't misunderstand. I'm not depressed. Just truly fed up with people. I've said it a million and one times, but this time it felt like something clicked. I just can't even care anymore. So many people just wish ill will for no reason except they can. How important do you have to think of yourself to do that? Why waste energy ro hate? So I would much rather not spend any energy at all on the people that don't deserve it. I feel it was more of a courtesy for me to post it than anything. Hope that doesn't sound conceited

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Why should you let what other people do get to you? People wish ill will all the time, people hate for no reason all the time, and do other horrible stuff. The reality of the world is that it's a bit of a turd IMO, but I don't think you should let all the negative stuff shape your view.

There are people that care about others too much, and people that do too much good for their own good IMO. There are people that try and make a tiny corner of the planet a better place.

Surround yourself with people that put you first, and people that care about you, I don't think its worth letting shitty people and horrible events live rent free in your mind.

[–] mohKohn@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

dude, go to therapy.

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Probably for the best isn't it? Think of all the famous people throughout history. Who among them lived a long happy life and died peacefully? Very few.

[–] Kantiberl@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Everything you do has a significant impact. When you take care of yourself, love yourself, and proactively change what's in your control, you inspire those around you. Your actions shape their behavior and perspective. But if you let your hardships get the best of you and you start to harbor resentment towards the world, it negatively affects EVERYTHING in the world. This negative mindset spreads, bringing down not just you, but those around too. Hell, it affects the animals and plants that you come across. Just the pheromones you emit and the way you walk changes peoples paths and their thoughts. Your actions matter. They have consequences. I'm typing this response quickly to balance out your negative post, and it's making me late for work. It's time to get your act together. Only you can change your situation. Try to become proficient at something and make a positive contribution to society. Good luck, everything you need to improve is already within you. Just follow your heart, and don't overthink. Love yourself and you'll love the world too.