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    [–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 210 points 9 months ago (4 children)
    [–] d_k_bo@feddit.de 118 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Can't wait for SystemD for Windows

    sudo systemctl disable telemetry
    
    [–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 16 points 9 months ago

    I honestly want that. I much prefer managing services with systemd.

    [–] lawrence@lemmy.world 70 points 9 months ago (1 children)
    [–] PrefersAwkward@lemmy.world 116 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    And this incident has been reported. As have all your activities, searches, sites, and keystrokes

    [–] Zink@programming.dev 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    They need to end the “this incident has been reported” line with an animated laughing Bill Gates saying “ah ah aaaah, you didn’t say the magic word!”

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    [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 21 points 9 months ago

    Big bro, no!!!

    [–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 28 points 9 months ago

    ERROR: Fuck you! What do you think, we're Linux? How will we earn them monies without your data?

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    [–] fkn@lemmy.world 141 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    Win12 confirmed as a Linux mint cinnamon derivative distro.

    [–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 67 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    No, that would be too soon. It took them over 20 years to make a package manager, 15 years to add tabs to Windows Explorer. Maybe in 10-20 years they will do it.

    [–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    package manager

    They've got winget recently so they get closer than you think.

    https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli

    [–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
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    [–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    "linux mint, but it sells your data"

    i know microsft isn't really selling it, but they're making money like they do.

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    [–] ad_on_is@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I think mint is too Linuxy for win...they might go with Ubuntu and embrace snaps

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    [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 17 points 9 months ago

    I thought Microsoft was copying KDE

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    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 90 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    Doesn't really make sense in the context of windows tbh

    sudo = "superuser do"

    They should have made it NT-ASdo for "NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM do"

    Except it should actually be a powershell module so you have to type out the whole thing as NT-AuthoritySystem-Do

    ^/s^

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    But it needs to be a verb like get set do

    [–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Do-As "NT Authority/System"

    Have to quote it in too... since there's a space.

    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Probably something more like "Invoke-Command -AsAdmin"

    Which would be aliased to sudo

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    [–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Wait, is sudo pronounced su du then?

    [–] Jeom@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    yeah but it sounds dumb so im never gonna say it correctly

    [–] Chriswild@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

    Sounds like Scooby Doo's lost cousin Sue Doo

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    [–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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    [–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 83 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    >new

    >"sudo was initially released: circa 1980"

    Random sidenote, today I learned that not only does sudo have a logo, it's in direct reference to a classic xkcd strip.

    [–] bastian_5@sh.itjust.works 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    They're also aknowledging that it already existed... It's new to windows. I don't like them either but you don't need to actively look for shit to be upset at them over.

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    [–] x4740N@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The sandwich with a face makes me feel uncomfortable for some reason

    [–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago

    This sandwich is definitely the type of sandwich to eat humans as revenge for its kind.

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    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Oh thank goodness, having to spawn a full admin terminal every time you need that is such a pita

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    [–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 51 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    Soon, some linux newbies would search for how to do something with sudo and spent an hour scratching their head trying to figure out why the command not working, only to realize they copy pasted sudo command for windows instead.

    [–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)
    [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Most likely the other way around. They'll see the guide mention Windows and bail out because it's proprietary

    [–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

    I meant that window users will see Linux commands since Linux has been around for much much much longer and window users will get confused. Which is good, we need people to start hating Windows so they'll consider Linux

    [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

    I am pretty sure it won't work 100% like sudo on Unix-likes, so why didn't they come up with different name, like elevate? This command being sudo will only confuse users.

    [–] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

    I think they want to compete with GNU/Linux and attract its users. They made WSL for probably the same reason. They even have a terminal now that almost doesn't suck.

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    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    When searching commands now Windows garbage comes up

    [–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    So it's more to poison search results to stifle Linux adoption

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    [–] eatham@aussie.zone 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Whenever a windows user Google's how to do something with it the Linux thing will show up. Microsoft might need to rethink this

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    [–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    We already had this function, they just made sudo into an alias of:

    runas /user:Administrator
    [–] r4indeer@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    No, that required the local admin account to have a password, which is usually unset (and the account is also locked). This uses the UAC system instead.

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    [–] mmababes@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Some quotes from Steve Jobs about Microsoft:

    • The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste. They have absolutely no taste. And I don't mean that in a small way, I mean that in a big way, in the sense that they don't think of original ideas, and they don't bring much culture into their products. --Triumph of the Nerds (1996)
    • I am saddened, not by Microsoft's success — I have no problem with their success. They've earned their success, for the most part. I have a problem with the fact that they just make really third-rate products. --Triumph of the Nerds (1996)
    • I wish developing great products was as easy as writing a check. If that was the case, Microsoft would have great products.
    [–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You made me angry with myself for agreeing with Steve Jobs.

    [–] BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    maybe he got those quotes from Wozniak, too /j

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    [–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Don't worry, all the quotes work for Apple too. You can always hate both.

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    [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Sadly it doesn't seem to handle the one use case I really wanted it to handle, which is running elevated commands through a terminal in a VSCode tunneling session without also having an RDP session open for me to click the confirmation dialog.

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    [–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)
    [–] elvith@feddit.de 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe, but knowing the ease of sudo, I really hate using runas. Most of the time, I just want plain old admin privileges. Mostly I don't care whether I can impersonate another user with this.

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    [–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    This is the most non-credible real shit i've seen in a while. Sudo for windows? What is next? The whole gnutils native on windows? If they do that I'm going to be happy because i could play games that aren't suported on linux but at the same time scraping all the big pile of shit that windows is packaged with.

    Like neutered Windows, like droping a huge nuke into Sytstem32 directory and killing every shit.

    No more you don have permisions to do this when i'm the only user, plus administrator. Current state it feels like microsoft is lending my computer to me or something.

    Well tbh Mac OS is having the same aproach. I've used old macos and nowadays all the things someone wants on an os are hidden in maze like preferences windows and whatever bullshit.

    [–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago

    Windows is just the expensive knock off at this point XD

    [–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 9 months ago (5 children)
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    [–] kureta@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

    At this point just release a new Linux distro and call it "Windows for Developers" or something.

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