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[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 119 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ahh, but in Star Wars, "Light Speed" is exactly as fast as the plot demands. Checkmate, science dorks!

[–] essell@lemmy.world 60 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In Starwars they travel through hyperspace, hitting light speed is how you get into it!

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 43 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I just assumed light speed was a colloquialism for hyperdrive.

At any rate, hyperdrive blows warp out of the water in raw speed. A trip across the galaxy is just a few days. The downside is that you're pretty much limited to already charted safe routes unless you want to test your luck with potential ship-killing hazards that can't be detected before hitting them.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Y’all noobs don’t even have guild navigators.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You mean there's no weird creatures created from humans by the effects of FTL?

Hold on, I gotchu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DBk2ejb6i8

Warp ten baby, infinite velocity!

[–] june@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I always thought it was weird that the evolution of humans led to us being giant axolotl‘s.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's both. I think "jumping to lightspeed" is an in-universe misnomer for jumping to Hyperspace. Han Solo misuses the terminology the first time we're introduced to the concept (so does Kenobi, for that matter), but in that same scene he does make a distinction between lightspeed and hyperspace. The ship still needs to accelerate to something very close to light speed to slip into the parallel hyperspace dimension, so it kinda tracks between the two concepts.

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[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You also can't leave or enter the galaxy Star Wars takes place in, except for a small perforation called Vector Prime. There's a galactic barrier in place that causes hyperspace to just kinda...stop working.

[–] graymess@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's the most interesting bit of Star Wars lore I've heard.

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago

But nothing beats Discovery's mushroom drive (incidentally that's also what the writers had before writing it).

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[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 101 points 7 months ago (3 children)

"The Infinite Improbability Drive is a wonderful new method of crossing interstellar distances in a few seconds, without all that tedious mucking about in hyperspace. As the Improbability Drive reaches infinite improbability, it passes through every conceivable point in every conceivable universe almost simultaneously. So you're never sure where you'll end up or even what species you'll be when you get there. It's therefore important to dress accordingly. The Drive was invented following research into finite improbability often used to break the ice at parties by making all the molecules in the hostess's undergarments leap one foot to the left in accordance with the theory of indeterminacy. Many physicists said they wouldn't stand for that sort of thing, partly because it debased science, but mostly because they didn't get invited to those sort of parties." Hitchhiker's Guide

[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I know a lot of die-hard fans have a lot of problems with the movie but personally I love it, especially these narrated animated bits.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (6 children)

People were mad it didn't follow the book when Adam's was very insistent all versions of Hitchhiker's should be different.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. The radio play, books, TV series, and film were all different.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (5 children)

isn't he the one who flat out said its boring to just tell the same story again?

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[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. And Stephen Fry, for all his faults, does a great job narrating.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What are his faults?

Genuine question.

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[–] duviobaz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 7 months ago

I can't read anything from the Hitchhikers Guide without reading it in the authors voice

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[–] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 72 points 7 months ago (2 children)

But Ludicrous Speed is supreme to all other speeds. The Plaid Life is the life for me.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

What's the matter, Colonel? Chicken?!

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 49 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It could be the 40K fan in me, but warp speed sounds like a drug the inquisiton should take a look at.

[–] Steve@communick.news 16 points 7 months ago

You're thinking of the acid drive

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The ship is actually not even moving. Space moves around the ship.

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 17 points 7 months ago

In United Federation of Planets, space move around ship.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (14 children)

How fast can the Enterprise make the Kessel run?

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 45 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 7 months ago

They're such a cute couple. Better not leave their babies behind!

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Depends. Are you asking about the canon Kessel run, or the objectively superior EU version?

In the EU pre-Disney, Kessel was a black hole and there was a race around it. The more powerful your engines, the closer you could get to the black hole. Which is why Han used a distance measurement instead of time (of course, the most likely in-universe fan theory is that Han was BSing the two farm yokels by throwing out space technobabble, but Star Wars authors never settle for the easy answer when they could write an entire book to fill in the plot-hole).

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Never made sense in the EU. You get yanked out of hyperspace way before you need to account for that kind of gravity. My headcanon was always that it's just some spacer jargon we don't have the context to parse. Like how a 12 second car is fast, even though time is not a unit of speed.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Stronger/faster engines could get closer to the gravity wells but there are also lines about running into stars so at the end of the day it was all fan cope to explain away something that had a simpler answer:

Han Solo was very obviously lying to the hicks about how fast his ship could go.

Obiwan knows, Luke is clueless. It's one of the best character defining scenes in the movie and most viewers didn't catch it.

Head over to YouTube and watch the clip, you'll see Obi-Wan smirk at the lie while Luke buys it.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Even as a kid I knew that, and hated the “light speed” references.

Later on, I justified it as imprecise use of language, which happens all the time anyway. “Light speed” became a generic term for “going super fast”. Or something.

[–] mxcory@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Just ignore "light speed", "ludicrous speed" is where it is at.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Raspberry. There's only one man who would dare give me the raspberry: Lone Starr!

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I've lost the bleeps, the sweeps, and the creeps!

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[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I thought warp speed is the speed of light. Anything above warp 1.0 is faster than the speed of light.

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[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It depends on your frame of reference.

From inside the ship, light speed is faster. You travel arbitrary distance in an instant.
Outside the ship, everyone else sees you moving 1 light year per year, but for passengers, the voyage is essentially a forward-only time machine.

From outside the ship, warp speed is faster. Observers will see the warp bubble with a ship inside it moving >1 light year per year, and because it will arrive at its destination before light from the ships own past will arrive there, it acts like a view-only backwards time machine.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 12 points 7 months ago (8 children)

To be clear, even if you're moving at 1000x the speed of light, and have figured out a way around relativity so that you don't have time dilation (and so you can, y'know, go faster than the speed of light), galactic distances are still so vast that interstellar traffic is largely not feasible. Our galaxy--one of billions, trillions, or more--is about 2M light years across. Going all the way across the galaxy at 1000x the speed of light would still take 2000 years.

[–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars

It's a hundred thousand light years side to side

It bulges in the middle, six thousand light years thick

But out by us, it's just a thousand light years wide

We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point

We go 'round every two hundred million years

And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions

In this amazing and expanding universe

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[–] nnjethro@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Milky Way is much smaller than that. The Andromeda galaxy is 2.5M light years away. Maybe that's where you got 2M from. The Milky Way is about 100,000 light year diameter.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (8 children)

"She'll make .5 past lightspeed."

Lightspeed seems to be a catch-all layterm that means the speed of light and everything faster. Hyperspace is a better description of what's happening. And different ships traverse hyperspace at different speeds depending on their engine.

"I've outrun Imperial starships. I don't mean the local bulk cruisers, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now."

Which is faster? I guess it would depend on which ships you're comparing to each other.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Warp speed and light speed are overrated. It's all about rule of cool and Elite's Witch Space has the coolest name.

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[–] seriousconsideration@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

47 years later and I'm still not quite sure what "She can make point 5, past light speed." means.

[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

It's dumb but it's been retroactively taken to mean that it has a Class 0.5 hyperdrive, whereas a Star Destroyer has a Class 2. (Smaller class numbers are faster.) Light speed in Star Wars can be much faster than the speed of light.

But then, pretty much everything to do with specifications and numbers of Star Wars tech is a clusterfuck of technobabble that makes Voyager's look coherent.

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I always thought of it as 1.5 light speed

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