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[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 213 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

So, wait, Mocrosoft is finally giving us a way to fully-disable automatic Windows Updates?

/s

[–] brakebreaker101@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

That's how I read it!

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 118 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Full list from this comment on another thread: https://lemmy.ca/comment/8470544

ConisioAdmin.exe (Solidworks PDM)

EaseUS Disk Copy.exe (EaseUS Disk Copy Application)

ep_dwm.exe (ExplorerPatcher) Included since 22H2

iCloudServices.exe (iCloud files shared in Explorer via WhatsApp) from 23H2

RadeonSoftware.exe (AMD GPU perf settings) from23H2

StartAllBackCfg.exe (StartAllBack) Included since 22H2

Multi-mon + Copilot (Microsoft)

MergeSdb (Microsoft)

Intel IntcOED.sys (Intel)

Intel IntcAudioBus.sys (Intel) (%WinDir%\System32\drivers\IntcAudioBus.sys)

Realtek 8192su Wireless USB 2.0 Adapter (Realtek) (%WinDir%\System32\drivers\RTL8192su.sys)

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 89 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They won't give you updates if you have radeon software or intel config tool?

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The article says it's only a specific Win7 version of VLC that's blocked, so maybe that's the case with these also.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 19 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Ok, so a newer version should be fine I guess. If that’s the case, the title should be: “If you’re still running these prehistoric software, Windows won’t be able to update“

[–] shalva97@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Too late. People in comment section already decided to install Linux

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago
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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 17 points 7 months ago

Will it stop asking me to upgrade every month if I have one of these installed? I might need to get one just for that.

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago

Hmm, interesting, do these all have explorer integrations? I know even a couple year's old SolidWorks PDM does not work with Windows 11 because of the way it integrates with Windows explorer. a couple of the other apps there modify/integrate into explorer as well.

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[–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 68 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This stops Windows 11 from blocking the installation and lets you get the app back onto your PC. We're not sure if Microsoft has fixed this trick, but it's worth a shot if you want to keep using your favorite apps.

That's mildly distopian.

This prevents your car from shutting itself off when trying visit certain areas on the map. We're not sure if car manufacturers have fixed this trick, but it's worth a shot if you want to keep going to your favorite places.

And only a little tiny bit adversarial.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

This is what ive been saying about windows vs Linux for years.

Linux isnt necessarily easy, but its collaborative and everybody's on the same side.

Windows is PvP, and now I'm seeing fucking Hangul characters in chat, and I'm afraid. I don't even use it anymore.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 50 points 7 months ago (33 children)

Wouldn't it be nice if you could just keep using Windows 10 forever, and get security updates for free?

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[–] Australis13@fedia.io 44 points 7 months ago (8 children)

I was already dubious about upgrading from 10 to 11 and this is final straw. I will have to look at Linux options and see if my Windows-only programs will run effectively under WINE.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (23 children)

I'm fucking out. I do a lot of basic IT work, including many fresh installs and new domain users, and I am so godamn sick of having to go through 5 dialogues every single time I open edge. For the local account. Then the domain admin account. Then the domain user account. Fuck this company.

As soon as I can afford to get an AMD GPU or do a swap with someone for my 1070, I'm gone. I used to love computers, but dealing with windows even on a home PC with no "problems", it just feels like more work.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You can do it with an Nvidia GPU too, you don't have to switch cards. I'm not sure where this idea comes from, that Nvidia doesn't work on Linux, 50-60% of users are on Nvidia according to Steam.

[–] Whayle@kbin.social 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's because out of the box there's often issues. For example, my setup with a 3080 booted to a black screen at login. Only futzing in the command prompt via grub let me install the correct driver, and it's been fine ever since then.

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[–] elshandra@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If they're games, protondb (.com) will tell you how well you can expect them to run. Other stuff, it's often a case of search the web or try and see. Wine takes some getting used to, you'll probably have to get your hands dirty and do a little learning.

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[–] sab@kbin.social 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm sure you're aware of it already, but WineHQ provides a good overview over which software runs well under WINE. :)

[–] shalva97@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

In the article all apps mentioned are very old versions. I just don't understand, how exactly this was a final straw for you?

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[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Glad they have time to call out everyone else’s problems, yet Microsoft still can’t fix their broken jan win 10 update.

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Is that the one where MS updated the recovery partition by including a file that's too big for that default partition? I had to manually resize my recovery partition to fix that issue

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 40 points 7 months ago

Install Linux and be done with this nonsense

[–] mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Imagine not being able to upgrade your Linux because you have modified YOUR system to suit YOUR needs. Fuck them...

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean, if you've done something affecting upgrade paths - possible.

Also I broke a FreeBSD ufs partition once while upgrading OpenBSD. I thought I'm very smart having that added into disklabel, and it would successfully mount read-only. Well, there were some actions to upgrade OpenBSD's own ufs partitions, so - I don't really remember whether I could restore any data, TBF. I think I could still mount that read-only from OpenBSD, but not from FreeBSD.

But that's about things being really broken.

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[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

But if those modifications were known to cause the system to brick after you update, wouldn't it be really nice if it stopped you from doing it?
And not just "yeah we know having done x will cause a bootloop after update, if you don't know to uninstall/fix it it first, too bad."

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[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Wow, imagine using a corporate owned operating system.

Laughs in Ubuntu

[–] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 months ago

laughs in another corporate OS?

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 25 points 7 months ago (4 children)
[–] tal@lemmy.today 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I assume because said apps and drivers break if the OS is updated.

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[–] cookie_sabotage@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I feel bad for Windows users, they just can't catch a break can they?

[–] style99@kbin.social 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It was already bad enough that we're stuck trying to use a trash OS to run our games and soul-sucking corporate crap, but now we have to ditch our customization tools to get updates that we need?

Thank goodness I mostly just use Linux.

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[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

What apps and links please? Just so I know what not to download.

::: (Yes I know its in the article...) :::

[–] NixDev@programming.dev 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)
ConisioAdmin.exe (Solidworks PDM)

EaseUS Disk Copy.exe (EaseUS Disk Copy Application)

ep_dwm.exe (ExplorerPatcher) Included since 22H2

iCloudServices.exe (iCloud files shared in Explorer via WhatsApp) from 23H2

RadeonSoftware.exe (AMD GPU perf settings) from23H2

StartAllBackCfg.exe (StartAllBack) Included since 22H2

Multi-mon + Copilot (Microsoft)

MergeSdb (Microsoft)

Intel IntcOED.sys (Intel)

Intel IntcAudioBus.sys (Intel) (%WinDir%\System32\drivers\IntcAudioBus.sys)

Realtek 8192su Wireless USB 2.0 Adapter (Realtek) (%WinDir%\System32\drivers\RTL8192su.sys)
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[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] db2@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It looks like they break Microsoft's update mechanism somehow, and Microsoft won't work around it. If it's because they'd have to make special cases just for one app I get it, but it doesn't seem like that's what's happening.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 43 points 7 months ago (6 children)

they break Microsoft’s update mechanism somehow

Microsoft’s update mechanism breaks Microsoft’s update mechanism.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well, I have two of those. I guess I'll just go fuck myself than, huh?

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

DeskModder noted that it wasn't as simple as blocking an app based entirely on its name; for example, while VLC is listed in the big list of services and apps that are disallowed, it's specifically listing a Windows 7 version of VLC.

Sounds like Windows has a problem with really old versions only. I guess you should be fine as long as you keep your apps relatively fresh.

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