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So I finally started it.

It's a fine game.

I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

I'm old. I'm patient.

Please, please don't mention spoilers if possible. I love to crack nuts the old fashioned way. 🙂

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_The_Minish_Cap

The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap[b] is an action-adventure game and the twelfth entry in The Legend of Zelda series.

Twelveth. Man.

I think that the last game in the series I played was the fourth game, The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening, from 1993, 11 years before that.

EDIT: I did get the early version of that cartridge which had a neat screen-warp bug where if one hit Select just as one was transitioning across screens, once could skip across the entire screen and break the game in interesting ways, get into areas that one wasn't supposed to be in yet.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

For anyone who hit the series much later, a timeline with YouTube playthroughs to see what they're like (excluding remakes on later systems):

  1. The Legend of Zelda, Nintendo Entertainment System, 1986

  2. Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, Nintendo Entertainment System, 1987

  3. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Super Nintendo Entertainment System, 1991

  4. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening, Game Boy, 1993

  5. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Nintendo 64, 1998

  6. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, Nintendo 64, 2000

  7. The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons, Game Boy Color, 2001

  8. The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages, Game Boy Color, 2001

  9. The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords, Game Boy Advance, 2002

  10. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, GameCube, 2002

  11. The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures, GameCube, 2004

  12. The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap, Game Boy Advance, 2004

  13. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Wii, 2006

  14. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Nintendo DS, 2007

  15. The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks, Nintendo DS, 2009

  16. The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Wii, 2011

  17. The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, Nintendo 3DS, 2013

  18. The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes, Nintendo 3DS, 2015

  19. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Nintendo Switch, 2017

  20. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, Nintendo Switch, 2023

There might be someone one here who has played through all of them, though if I had to bet, I'd guess not. That's a pretty large library.

[–] Sophocles@infosec.pub 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I've played most of them, and minish cap is definitely the best imo. The music, story, world, and nostalgia were all there for me. I also think LOZ was at its peak in the 2D era.

Also special mention, crossbow training for wii is C tier and LOZ CD-i is definitely A tier because Morshu

My first Zelda was... the original Zelda. Man I'm old. :)

So far I've played: 1-5 (Link's Awakening on Switch), 9, 12, 16 (Switch), 19. So I've played almost half. I thought BotW was meh, so I'm thinking of going back and playing some of the games I've missed (I bought Skyward Sword and Link's Awakening after TotK released). I never had an N64 (played Ocarina of time on a friend's N64), Game Cube, Wii, or Wii U, so I skipped those (I switched to XBox around that time).

I'm thinking Majora's Mask and Wind Waker next. Any thoughts?

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Thank you so much for this!

[–] caut_R@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ikr? The last Zelda I played before TotK was one (or two?) on GBC with seasons and time manipulation and I can‘t remember a thing about them other than the mechanics being great… So I guess they’d make an amazing „second“ playthrough?

I remember a lot more about A Link To The Past, especially being extremely anxious back then about the thief that lurks on the way to the Master Sword…

TotK didn‘t blow me away as much as it blew away critiques. There‘s just so much empty space between points of interest… I haven‘t given up on it though. Keeping it spoiler free, I’m at the part where I gotta look for someone specific down in the Abyss which is a bit daunting since it‘s big, dark, and full of enemies (I know you haven‘t played it, I‘m just rambling, apologies).

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

TotK

That's how I felt about BotW, so I didn't bother buying TotK, I figured it was more of the same with the tool-making gimmick added.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

TotK is wildly different for a game made with the same engine and sharing many core mechanics. Just my opinion, but the different powers really add a ton, to say nothing of the verticality of it.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

IDK, I've never really been interested in the powers in Zelda games, I'm more interested in the dungeons, puzzles, and bosses. I'm not really into sandbox games generally, I love puzzles and combat.

I'll probably play it eventually, just not super interested in it right now. My kids would probably love it though, they love sandbox games.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

ToTK is way more about the puzzles than BoTW was. Figuring out how to put together a device to solve a given puzzle is a huge portion of the game. That's what I mean when I say the different powers make it a wildly different game. Ultrahand alone is the source of hundreds of puzzles way more entertaining than the whole "pick up the out-of-place rock to find a korok" type filler that BoTW has.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Huh, maybe I'll like it then. But "everyone" seems to love BotW, and "everyone" seems to say "if you like BotW, you'll love TotK." So I'm skeptical.

I much preferred Skyward Sword and Link's Awakening, so I'll probably go back through the Zelda games I missed (Game Cube and Wii eras) before playing TotK. But I'll recheck the reviews again the next time I get a hankering for a Zelda game. Thanks!

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh man, if you haven't played Wind Waker, make that one a priority.

Having beaten both the original and the HD version, the HD version is better because the original version of collecting the triforce shards towards the end of the game is a slog and the HD version cuts down on that tedium quite a bit.

I wish they'd remaster for the Switch, but maybe I'll just fire up an emulator instead.

[–] Okami_No_Rei@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Minish Cap was my first Zelda. I remember using my allowance to buy the strategy guide back in the day so I could 100% it. Lots of nostalgia there.

[–] BirdEnjoyer@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

100% with the Gatcha stuff? Wow.

[–] Link@rentadrunk.org 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’ve 100% Minish Cap twice. It’s just takes a bit of patience to get all the figures.

[–] Okami_No_Rei@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I was a child with extensive free time and limited game options. I spent hours mowing grass to grind shells for the machine.

That wasn't even the worst part. Combing through every NPC looking for the last few kinstone fusions if you missed one was way more annoying.

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 months ago

TMC and four seasons are some of my favorites from back in the day. You're in for a treat :)

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think it's interesting that Capcom developed that one for Nintendo. They certainly did a great job!

I like, but don't love, Link's Awakening. I get that they had the limitations of the Game Boy to work around, so the idea that the map is confounding to navigate - just like a dream can be - was a creative choice that fit well. It just doesn't resonate with me.

The GBA was definitely a better platform for a Zelda game than the OG Game Boy.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I never played the GB version, but the Switch version is pretty good. So maybe consider that.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I've played it. Since the basic game design is unchanged, I still don't love it.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I never finished this one because someone broke into my house and stole my GBA SP with this cart in it (and some other stuff). Same reason I didn't even play Oracles (or maybe Seasons?). I finished one, and started Minish cap before the other.

:(

[–] ZOSTED@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

I loved it and didn't finish it either, only I don't even have an excuse. Maybe I just got stuck.

I love it, and it's one of my favorites.

[–] Ashtear@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

This is April's game of the month for a Discord server I'm on, so a few of us have been tinkering with it recently. I was surprised at how good analog control felt with it.

So cool to see a bunch of praise for this game here! It's one of my favorite Zeldas and it's always seemed like it never got a lot of talk.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago

It's one of the best Zelda games period and certainly the best made for a handheld console — and that includes the Switch ones. Enjoy!

I just started playing that last year after meaning to for many years (doesn't help that I only got into 2D Zelda like 5 years ago). It's super fun. I still haven't finished it, though. Got stuck at one part or another and haven't gotten back to it yet.

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

The Minish Cap was a fun time, but the Kinstones...

I remember having to find a guide to get all of them.

[–] Entropy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago

I just beat it for the first time myself last year. I loved it, beginning to end. I don't know why I waited so long to play it honestly. I grew up with the Oracle games, which were also Capcom, so I should have known it would be great. Enjoy!

[–] Tregetour@lemdro.id 1 points 6 months ago

Is the BOTW emulation experience at a point where I can get 30-40fops consistently on a 2015 Hawaii series AMD card?

[–] Avialle@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Not as patient as waiting to post after playing it through. :p