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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 212 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Imagine a species surviving world war 2 and the Holocaust then still being pro-nazi. So fucking stupid.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 82 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

A bad economy and uncertain future make people very afraid. It’s tempting to stick your head in the sand, blame all your problems on a specific demographic, then trust dear leader will punish the people that made you scared.

It’s completely divorced from reality, but reality sucks right now. People are scared. They’re taking the blue pill to feel better and pretend the horror all around them isn’t happening. They won’t max out their credit cards and become homeless. Dear Leader will fix things before that happens.

[–] MamboGator@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If this were a recent phenomenon, I would agree with you. But western fascism didn't go away when the good times were rolling. It may have been quieter until recently, but these aren't just scared imbeciles struggling through 21st century inequality.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

didn't kill enough Nazis and now they own all the algorithms.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can blame all your problems on a specific demographic: the rich.

It's always been a class war.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Food and shelter slowly become unaffordable, mass layoffs as large corporations automate, and the planet itself burns. All to feed the richest human beings who have ever walked the earth with more wealth.

Weekdays crushing the hopes and dreams of everyone on earth. Weekends at Epstein’s island. Monsters in human form.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

you think they dont do the crushing from their phones at pedo island?

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

well, that escalated quickly. :,-(

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

In Germany, at least, those people aren't even worried about the real issues, like climate change, but about made-up issues like the green party destroying our economy (they're not), immigrants raping women left and right (they aren't) and that we aren't using nuclear energy anymore and are relying more and more on renewables (it's not causing any issues and pushing down energy price)

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, when I get worried about stability the last thing I want to do is start attacking other people and creating even more enemies. I get that it’s not so simple and not so instantaneous a choice, but still.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

you literally described fascism

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Imagine being so filled with hate that you sympathize with Nazis.

I can’t.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They don't sympathize with nazis. They see fascism as a necessary evil to preserve their power, which they value more than even the continuity of the species or the well-being of their descendants.

It's like the One Ring, you can argue you'll use it ethically or to do good, but ultimately it means employing Ringwraiths to take care of those who might stop you.

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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

nor I.

and I'm really angry, so clearly it takes more than hate.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Less than 100 years. It's pathetic. Bring on the nuclear winter.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You're not getting out of climate change that easily.

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Eh, I live in the US where people still pine for the fucking confederacy because they love slavery and racism. Of course people are gonna keep the nazi hate machine going.

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[–] pumpkinseedoil@feddit.de 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It's not like antisemitism prevented people from supporting the NSDAP (in many cases the opposite). Sure, when they were elected they didn't know what to do with Jews yet, but antisemitism was one of the pillars of their philosophy (if the people are unhappy you have to take responsibility or simply point at someone and say "they are responsible, it's their fault") and antisemitism has existed since forever. (Of course there were not only Jews in concentration camps but they were initially made for them).

And sadly antisemitism still exists today in many areas of the world.

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Guess what they say is true: times change, people don't.

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[–] puppy@lemmy.world 85 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Weird it says "paused" and not "terminated". I think there's something wrong with my glasses, am I seeing it correctly?

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah, but "My Pillow and meth" money is very different from "new car" money

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yes you did. They are just checking to see if their PR can handle it - capitalists have no problem with Nazism.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Fascism is the final defense against movements such as communism and socialism, given that it is what they turn to once there's evidence there's no good side to capitalism for the labor class (fair wages and civil rights always get rolled back; public-serving government is captured to serve the ownership class; upward mobility is sabotaged; etc.)

So it is impossible to be capitalist without anticipating fascism at least in the future. And while ethical capitalists exist who treat their workers relatively well and avoid unethical sourcing or production, they're much like ethical kings, in that they are the exception and are replaced with less-ethical owners. Even Gabe Newell will die or retire or be bought out.

In the end, the Musks and Zuckerbergs and Bezoses are like the Fords and Disneys and Bushes (and Busches) who are like the Rockefellers and Carnegies and Morgans, who all are glad to see the labor class languish in Great Depression era living conditions while they restore absolute autocracy. And they'd rather die, themselves, fighting to keep their assets, or watch it burn rather than give it up for a better, livable society.

In the end, the ownership class will tremble before communist revolution. The only alternative is extinction, or destruction of the environment that precludes population large enough for mass infrastructure.

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[–] DavidGA@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It is shocking that they waited this long.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

is the word you were looking for 'disappointing'?

because yes.

[–] geekworking@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Maybe waiting to see which side comes out on top. Kinda like Volkswagen. (Yes I know I didn't exactly happen like that)

[–] kiku123@feddit.de 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think it's kind of like how politicians "pause" their political campaigns when they concede. Technically they could come back to it, but almost certainly won't.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

Also, for better or worse, pause tells X "if you figure out how to fix this problem we might come back." Canceled says "go find someone else who is cool with Nazis."

Having that financial incentive dangling in a string might be more motivating for X to change. If they don't change of course, the net effect is the same as canceling.

[–] slimarev92@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Pauses...they'll probably be back once this blows over.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I've seen variations of this headline a million times. Tbh while I certainly approve of not giving Elon money, at this point I can only think moves like this as performative actions to get some free good PR.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I forget x is Twitter and took me a while to figure out that X isn't a car model of Hyundai

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

X is a single letter most commonly used as a variable in algebra and other math courses. Also commonly used for loops when writing code.

Hyundai wouldn't be dumb enough to name one of their cars a single letter. Even back when Toyota had the Scion brand, they named their models the xA and xB, because naming anything a single letter is fucking retarded. Do we not have language in our society still? Must we revert to monke and just make single syllable noises?

I say, companies all around should start rebranding as single letters. Apple will be A. AMD will also be A. Samsung S, Starbucks also S. This would be hilarious to show how dumb Elon is.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 6 months ago

X was a window system for Unix-like operating systems long before Elon Musk decided that would be a good name for the social media platform he bought.

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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Bit late to the party, must be a combination of language barrier and declining effectiveness of ads on a dying platform.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I don't imagine that the people over at Hyundai Motor America have a hard time with English. This was merely not knowing/caring until it became a problem.

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[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gee, who ever thought there would be racist content from a site owned by Apartheid Boy? And of course, he probably denies it exists in spite of clear evidence to the contrary. He literally defamed the Anti-Defamation League when they called him out on him jerking it to his Nazi fantasies. Then I think he cried to his mommy, who looks like the Bride of Frankenstein.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

I'm sure this is a given reason.

I can't help think posting ads on a platform owned by the head of a rival car company just as that company is tanking out and desperately flailing around to improve sales might be inadvisable for a whole host of reasons, though.

[–] ApeNo1@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hyundai executive notices a man with a small moustache being hastily ushered out of the X offices main board room.

Hyundai Executive : “Was that Hitler?”

Elon steps in front of board room door : “That wasn’t Hitler, that was a woman.”

Hyundai Executive : “That looked like Hitler.”

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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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