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[–] errer@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This same group has been pushing this theory for a decade with no direct evidence. Each paper is just confirmation bias in action.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Some amateur types have been pushing this for decades with zero evidence, but as the article says, a legit pair from Caltech finally found some circumstancial evidence it could be possible, and this expanded group is just throwing more on the pile. I think it's just one of those "Well...let's say it's possible, here's what we'd be looking at for evidence..." kind of deals.

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Back in my day it was called Planet X, god dammit!

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Because back in my (our) day Pluto was number, so Planet X worked. Planet VIIII doesn't look as good.

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 22 points 6 months ago (4 children)
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That means "Boy who is not able to satisfactorily explain what a Hrung is, nor why it should choose to collapse on Betelgeuse Seven". I don't see how that applies here.

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 months ago
[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Still trying to figure out what the hell it is

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

VIIII is a valid way to write 9, though antiquated. If you look at very old clocks, you'll see they all use this notation.

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Didn't realize homie was an antiquated clock. (Assumed the usage of Roman numerals, like in the references being made, in which case I don't believe the clumsy VIIII only used on old clocks would really be valid.)

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

This made me really laugh. Thought I would let you know 😂

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

VIIII wasn't exclusive to clocks, that's the only long-lasting example we still have access to.

[–] 5wim@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Your point is that VIIII was ever used in history? Happily conceded.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The reason clocks use it, is to not make it look visually unbalanced. Most often they write 4 as IIII. I find it infuriating to break such a simple rule though.

But also, I've never ever seen VIIII.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Julius Caesar's memoir of war in Gaul makes use of VIIII, for instance. You're right that it's much rarer, but was still used contemporarily and in modern times.

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah yeah. Same same.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Yes, Ix, let's start naming these planets like its classic SciFi.

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I know. I wasn't being serious.

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago

Nibiru. Not Pluto.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I remember that from my childhood! My mother convinced me it was probably a bad science fiction movie

[–] subignition@kbin.social 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

A new planet in a distant orbit, you say?
In before the signal is older than the universe itself.

[–] Charred@feddit.it 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The downvotes are not getting the reference smh.

Science compels us to blow up the sun!

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I do not get the reference, but I can tell it IS a reference, so throwing an upvote on it lol

[–] subignition@kbin.social 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You should forget anything you've read in this thread and play Outer Wilds ASAP. And you should go into it as blind as possible. Trust me; you only get to experience it for the first time once.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Invite me to the jam, I swear I can whistle well

[–] ceiphas@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Just call it Rupert already!

[–] Hupf@feddit.de 2 points 6 months ago
[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We can call the new planet Cerberus. On honor of Pluto.

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't we then confuse it with Pluto's moon? Imagine a family of poor future Solar system travellers realizing they got the tickets for the moon, not the planet.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Isn't Pluto's moon Charon?

[–] 9bananas@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

pluto has more than one moon ;)

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but this aren't planets. We could always just reuse the name Pluto. Then all the old books are right again.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

That’s Pluto erasure. Pluto isn’t a planet but it’s damn well part of our solar system.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Kerberos and Cerberus while referencing the same thing are spelled differently.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I find it amusing that we can prove the existence of black holes thousands of light years away and glean the state of the universe at its earliest moments, but we can't decide whether there's a rock big enough to count as a planet floating around the inside rim of the Oort Cloud.

[–] Audacious@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago

It might be a miscalculation of orbital body models, which has happened before. Urbain Le Verrier was able to predict Neptune's existence. Then he tried to predict a planet between Mercury and the Sun, because the current Newtonian physics wasn't lining up to observations, a similar situation to how Neptune was found. Then Einstein's work on gravity modeled the orbital bodies more accurately, ending the debate if there was another planet closer to the sun than Mercury. Just a different food-for-thought point of view, as I don't know what the answer is obviously.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago

Science and history are fun because we keep adding new information and proving / disproving theories.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The team acknowledges that other forces could be at play that might explain the behavior that they simulated but suggest they are less likely.

Space Whales

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

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