Opposing The Gaza Genocide While Supporting Biden Is A Dishonest, Nonsensical Position (caitlinjohnstone.com.au)

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[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 4 months ago

Crakkkas trap

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 4 months ago

Drawn them in like moths to a flame.

[-] tarbeez@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Those who support Israel’s actions in Gaza are the worst people on earth, but at least their position has some kind of integrity. They’re not contradicting themselves by pretending to oppose what they’re actually fine with. They’re not tearing themselves in half trying to straddle two completely incompatible positions while smiling for the camera and pretending it doesn’t hurt. They’re not posturing as compassionate anti-imperialists while serving the evil empire

Same sentiment as Malcolm X and many others have expressed. With the wolf, you at least know where he stands. The sneaky lib fox will tell you (and itself) what you need to hear and before you know it, it's all but eaten you alive.

[+] djsoren19@yiffit.net -22 points 4 months ago

Unless your follow-up sentence is "and the revolution is starting now, here's your kalashnikov," then the point is moot. Both presidential candidates, and the broader American public, support the genocide in Israel. The only way you're going to influence any change in that is by tearing down the entire institution.

If you aren't willing to die in a glorious revolution though, your options are to abstain and hope you don't give the country to a fascist who wants a genocide at home; or bite your tongue, vote for Biden, and work on grassroots organization to destroy the DNC from within.

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 4 months ago

work on grassroots organization to destroy the DNC from within

This is not a new idea and it has never worked.

If you are gonna go down that, at least learn from real examples rather than whatever anime you gained your worldview from. When UK's Labour's right-wing wanted to supplant Corbyn, they sabotaged his election leading to Labour's lowest vote count ever. They used this erosion in trust and credibility to excise him from the leadership. I don't see how adding to its approval numbers will help you dismantle the party.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 4 months ago

[-] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 4 months ago

A political party is complicit in genocide and your response is to go join that party? Be serious. You're not going to tear down an institution by working within that same institution.

[-] GlueBear@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 4 months ago

The only way you’re going to influence any change in that is by tearing down the entire institution.

bite your tongue, vote for Biden, and work on grassroots organization to destroy the DNC from within.

"Guys the system is totally fucked and can't be changed by anything short of revolution. Let's start a grassroots campaign to fix the system!"

[-] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 4 months ago

Had me in the first half ngl

[-] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I read that first sentence about kalashes and I was like why is he being down voted. Then I read the rest lol

[-] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 4 months ago

I even up voted it at first 💀 I was like yeah true but then had to double take that last part

[-] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 4 months ago

I mean, sabotaging the Democrats from the inside might be a viable tactic. But the Democrats are doing a good enough job of that on their own. As someone whose name I forgot once put it, the Democrats are masters of stealing defeat from the jaws of victory.

The republicans have set the bar is in hell, but the Democrats see this as a challenge. And we know they are capable of performing miraculous feats of gymnastics.

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