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I notice that now, more than ever before, new upcoming artists' and alternative music is heavily pop-oriented, synthesized, and digital.

Is it just easier for them or do Gen Z not have the fondness for guitar that dominated the 1980s to the 2010s?

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

kagis

https://breakthroughguitar.com/think-playing-guitar-is-dying-think-again-the-stats-tell-a-different-story/

According to industry reports, guitar sales have decreased consistently for over a decade. Total US guitar sales dropped over 50% from 1.5 million units yearly in the 2000s down to around 600,000 as of 2020.

However, the past few years showed a leveling off of declines, and 2021 even saw a slight uptick likely driven by pandemic factors. But regardless, the market has gotten undeniably smaller since its peak.

That doesn't have a breakdown as to age of buyers, but if sales are less than half what they were two decades ago, I imagine that playing the guitar is probably less popular than it was at that point in time.

[–] intelisense@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure it's that simple - maybe they are playing their Gen X parents' guitars?

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

It does seem unlikely that, regardless of interest in playing the instrument, sales would’ve done anything but slumped in recent decades. Can’t really envision buying brand new guitars being a high priority for young people who are seemingly worse and worse off over time

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Their data mentions the demographics of people who play guitar, not just those who buy them. (In 2022) 18-34 are about 40% of guitar players with the largest share. Boomers also still play but don't exert market influence.

That actually sounds like Gen X are the smaller guitar playing demographic, maybe? Could just be too busy with careers.

[–] intelisense@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Speaking as a Gen X with a guitar... it was all about synthpop, rave and industrial. Who needed guitars in the 80s/90s anyway?

/s

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No. Harpsichord is on the rise, to dominate, once again.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Harpsichord + delay always sounds dope

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago

And waw. Don't forget the waw.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago

Who needs dynamic range

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 16 points 5 months ago

Guitar? You mean the controller for Guitar Hero?

[–] patchexempt@lemmy.zip 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

yes, things like Midwest emo are seeing a resurgence, see Origami Angel or Arcadia Grey for instance; or things that blend hyperpop with more pop/punk sensibilities like Dynastic. there's a lot of it out there, it's just not what's mainstream.

[–] kralk@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] patchexempt@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago

you were cool the whole time

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

I am commenting to check this comment later so I can check out these bands.

[–] Battle_Masker@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Gen Z? Yes.

Producers, advertisers, and other media big wigs that would fit in with the Ferengi Commerce Association? No

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No. Ze sin-te-sigh-zer is ze sound of ze future.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

I think most zoomers feel like they just don't have the time for that on top of whatever else they have going on.

I guarantee you that for every lost sale over time there's probably like 3 kids out there who have looked at an instrument and had a thought of "just maybe..." before banishing it because the time and energy costs alone to even begin sounding good at most instruments is gonna be daunting to someone who feels like their plate was already loaded.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 months ago

I guess I'm technically gen z, even if on the older side, but I think guitars are cool. And a sample size of one is perfect.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Isn't the whole instagram neo-soul guitar style a gen Z thing? It seems like at least some of the generation is both fond of guitar and very good at it

[–] Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's also Polyphia and that whole movement of progressive metal with no distortion. Their technical level is stellar.

[–] mihnt@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

progressive metal with no distortion

wut

Examples?

[–] Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not much into it but I think Polyphia is a good example. I once got down a rabbit hole of related bands on YouTube, I don't remember the names but it definitely is a scene. It's hyper technical, definitely progressive, but you'll hear little if any overdrive, kind of like the latest Tool album but taking it even further.

Tim Hansen from Polyphia is like nothing I've ever heard. He even plays on nylon strings most of the time, and he just shreds the fuck out of it. Check him out on YouTube if you haven't already!

[–] mihnt@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

...you need to look up, Joe Satriani, Buckethead, and Steve Vai.

That's the same vein they are taking inspiration from.

The guitar Tim Henson uses is a half-body, thin-necked, "classical" 6 string Ibanez. He only uses it for certain parts of the songs and ends up back on an electric by the end of the song most of the time. (Or Scott LePage will take over electric duty.) He also plays 7 and 8 string guitars. (I don't know if I've ever seen him with a 9.)

They use distortion plenty.

This is just progressive rock really. If you want progressive metal of the same "type", check out Animals as Leaders.

I thought you were going to mention Chon.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Never heard of it, tbh. I was just making a statement about how all the popular bands from 2 decades ago had at least one guitarist, but nowadays it feels like it's only DJs and little girls on the radio.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

That's largely the radio. It doesn't play music that's actually fashionable, it plays music that's easily marketable.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 4 points 5 months ago

Fair enough, I'm probably more exposed to it since I listen to and watch a bunch of guitar-related stuff anyway. There's a distinctive style of guitar playing that has emerged among a bunch of highly-proficient gen Z players, some of whom (like Ichika Nito and Seiji Igusa) have acquired petty substantial social media followings

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] danciestlobster@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

It was supposed to be the one that saved us!!!!

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

it's such a solid riff tho...

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Guitars were a 1960s thing I believe. Here is what the in-group plays now:

https://youtu.be/Dkygdt3l-LM

[–] Mars2k21@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

I love guitars (I own two, though I'm an on-and-off casual player) and I have a few friends who are also into guitar-made music. Other genres like hip-hop also make use of guitars on occasion as well. They definitely aren't as popular as they once were, but they still have a fandom in Gen Z.

[–] card797@champserver.net 2 points 5 months ago

If it's something that takes longer than 10 minutes at a time to do most people are not going to do it. Musical instruments are time intensive to learn.

[–] pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 5 months ago

Well, the guitar is, after all, a peasants instrument.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

flicks lighter

[–] Presi300@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I don't think guitars themselves are cool, but people who can play them? Definitely cool.

[–] Atin@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pop music has been like that since the early 80’s. Traditional bands; a couple of guitarists, a bass player, a drummer and someone singing, still held some sway until the end of the grunge movement, but now most modern bands are playing some form of metal.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Bro just acts like Alternative, Rock, and Nu Metal never existed into the 2010s, which is understandable tbh.