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[–] MaxPower@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I wish the world was as enthusiastic about saving hundreds of women and children as it is about saving 5 fucking millionaires or billionaires.

[–] FurtiveFugitive@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

While I agree with the sentiment, doesn't your own article state that immediately after the incident, multiple countries launched a group search and rescue mission which saved a lot of the victims?

The story about the millionaires, at least to me, is less about the fact that they're millionaires, and more about the fact that we have tourist visits to the remains of the Titanic. At this point I don't know who was on that tiny submersible but I'm intrigued with the tech and what could have gone wrong.

[–] gaytswiftfan@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

you can have interest in both. the news can't constantly keep people's focus on things that happen every day, people stop caring. also your own article states there was action taken.

I guess I kinda understand your frustration but if you choose to look at everything from that angle you might as well not participate in the news, it will burn you out

[–] anon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

the ugly truth is that immigrants drowning isn't news, it's just normal business, that's why they are trying to save the millionaires, and also why firemen send a chopper to rescue a cow stuck in ice while there are others getting chopped up a couple of miles away.

[–] Venutianxspring@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's disgusting, bit that's the fucked up world we live in. Same reason we do corporate bailouts and tax cuts for the rich but can't ensure that every kid has food to eat.

[–] reric88@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And pass bills removing free school lunches for needy kids

[–] Venutianxspring@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can't have those damn freeloader kids getting free food, that's socialism. #pro-life :(

[–] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah the sad part is that, really, the best we can hope for is a post mortem. Rescue is almost impossible in this situation.

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do we care? We know what happened - this thing was built like shit. How come taxpayers have to foot some bill to tow these dead rich fucks?

[–] Steve@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are still people, man. If they have the money maybe they should pay back the rescue efforts if found alive (which won’t happen), but it kinda sucks to say “welp bye” and let half a dozen people slowly die if you could’ve helped.

[–] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

On the other hand if it's 500 poor people fuck'em

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's nothing to rescue except a waterlogged carbon fiber tube filled with gore.

[–] Fauxreigner@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are reports that acoustic systems picked up banging noises at 30 minute intervals. Until I heard that, I was convinced it had imploded. Now I'm not so sure, and it'll only be worse if they aren't rescued. Implosion would at least have been fast.

[–] GadgeteerZA@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes seems no practical craft is actually able to reach them to recover their sub from that depth. There was no wire to pull them back up. The sub can't be opened from the inside, even if it had surfaced somewhere. There'll need to be a serious rethink about the safety design.

[–] Bowen@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’ll need to be a serious rethink about the safety design.

The owner is on record saying he thinks safety regulations are bogus an he's actively looked to cutting corners because you can't live in safety our whole life.

This whole thing was a stupid mess. I can't even really muster any sympathy for this situation because everyone made boneheaded decisions every step of the process. Including controlling thrust and control surfaces with a wireless PC controller because you're too much of a spedthrift to spend 10k on some deep sea cable glands and build an actual fly by wire system for your 1.25 million dollar trips to the bottom of the oceans.

[–] kryostar@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wait whaaaaaaat? They seriously used wireless PC controller for thrust and control surfaces?

Oh my god. If that's true that might be the most brain dead thing I've ever read today. Can you please give me a source, I have to know more about this now. :0

Edit: holy shit. I'm watching SomeOrdinaryGamers' video.

[–] MrMonkey@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't speak to the sub, but many Navy ships were retrofitted with systems to be controlled by XBox 360 controllers. Turns out training new people on the controller had huge improvements over the old systems.

EOD also has robots controlled by a "game controller". So do many drones.

This isn't a "crazy" thing to do. (except if it's wireless. Keep that cable)

https://thegamingwatcher.com/pages/articles/best-xbox/2023/6/21/gamepads-military-xbox-controllers-gaming

[–] kryostar@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I absolutely understand that. But that wireless part id what gets me man. Why add so many points of failure? I'm just so mind blown that they were okay with using such off the shelf components.

I've watched the Deep sea challenge documentary maybe 6-7 years ago.. and IIRC everything on that sub had to be rigorously tested and custom made. They made sure that the sub was prepared for the worst. They reduced the no of failure points as much as they could. "Always assume anything or everything that can go wrong, will go wrong" was kind of their philosophy.

So I always assumed that, every other sub and expedition will be treated the same. It's like sending astronauts to the moon.

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