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[-] Zeus@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

who even decides what's "modern" anymore?

can anyone, honestly, without reading the article (or guessing from the headline), tell me which of these is the "modern" design?

screenshot of the nautilus file manager in light mode screenshot of the nautilus file manager in light mode

edit: people are getting confused by the fact that one is tree view, not icons view so i changed the image. old image here

[-] owiseedoubleyou@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago

Apparently "modern" means hiding options behind extra clicks

[-] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago

i may be blind but what exactly was hidden behind one or more clicks?

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[-] curioushom@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago

Clearly the dark mode is the modern one! Jokes aside, I just realized that there THREE menu options on that toolbar: hamburger, kebab, and waffle! I realize they do different things, but no wonder people are confused by and scared of computers. Also, now I'm hungry!

TIL of kebab and waffle menus.

[-] Zeus@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

as someone who's not scared of computers, i have no idea what they do. i assume the right one is icons/list/compact[^1] not a waffle menu, but the hamburger and kebab? i have no clue

[^1]: though why it's showing list when the current view is icons, i don't know either

[-] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Since the kebab menu is inside the location/search box, I'm guessing it contains search-related options.

[-] aka_oscar@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

It has the same options as right clicking on an empty space in a directory. Stuff like Create a new folder, Create a new file, that sort of thing. "Actions you might wanna make on this directory". When you start searching, there is another button that appears and that one is the one that let you filter search options

I dont see the usefulness of that button tbh. Its like it assumes good ol right click isnt discoverable on its own. Idk anyond who has a mouse and hasnt pressed right click ever.

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[-] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's just my opinion (since it's not in the article) but a thing that makes Gnome and Libadwaita a "modern design" is the fact that the production behind it tries to bridge the gap between a "mouse and keyboard" and a "touch screen" workflow.
None of the other DEs come even close to Gnome when used on a tablet

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[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

The first one doesn't waste space in the title bar by expanding the locator and navigator buttons there.

[-] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Full height sidebar - from Mac OS 7 or so - must be modern?

[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Petition to force anyone talking about software to use "trendy" or "fashionable" instead of "modern".

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I'm very glad GNOME does such an amazing job staying modern in its look. GNU+Linux and free software would be much worse off without it.

[-] ebits21@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

Great. Now do split panel!

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

And column browse

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I’d love a setting to change the default file manager. I always install Nemo and configure it to be the default but last I checked, it’s not a simple GUI setting like changing the default browser or email client or whatever. And then you end up with two programs called “Files,” which obviously isn’t ideal.

Would it be that much of a problem to have what app is “Files” be a simple setting? Maybe it’s way more complicated than one assumes.

[-] dieelt@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

My dream is that one day we will be able to assign default applications to the “generic” names in Gnome. Launch “Browser” and open Firefox (or chrome 🤢), Files and open Dolphin, Messages and open Elements etc etc.

Obviously I can do the same with custom .desktop files but it would be a nice flair to use the settings to just assign applications to those generic names.

You can set the default app in the settings though, right?

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[-] Sina@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

I don't think I can go back to Nautilus after using Dolphin for so long, even if the search is far better.

The search on nautilus is probably better because a lot of gnome distros have the file indexer enabled by default, and that's what nautilus uses, but many kde distros don't come with the kde indexer, so dolphin doesn't index by default.

[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 3 points 1 year ago

So it's not just me having files that exist, but aren't found at all sometimes?

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[-] gzrrt@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

What's the advantage vs. the current version?

Also looks like it's removing an important visual affordance (i.e., which areas you can click to drag the window), unless I'm misinterpreting it

[-] d_k_bo@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The current version has some problems with adaptivity, e.g. resizing the app window can cause issues. This led to the creation of new libadwaita widgets. If you want to read the technical details, see https://blogs.gnome.org/alicem/2023/06/15/rethinking-adaptivity/

[-] Markaos@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also looks like it's removing an important visual affordance (i.e., which areas you can click to drag the window), unless I'm misinterpreting it

The top bar has been full of buttons with no whitespace for a year or more now, that's not new (you can still drag the window using the whole bar, but it's definitely not intuitive and made me subconsciously do Win+drag to be safe many times).

This seems to be a relatively minor visual update to have the left sidebar fill the whole window - ~~maybe they want more space for shortcuts at a given window height?~~ No clue.

Edit: never mind, checked again and it's literally just a tiny visual update with no change to the actual content of the sidebar, but it takes some space away from the top bar.

[-] rzlatic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

i welcome merging two triple-dot menus into one, according to screenshots.

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[-] gamey@feddit.rocks 7 points 1 year ago

I don't like Nautilus and always srick with Nemo but the new look of many Gnome apps is really nice!

[-] BigBangFieri@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Been a Gnome user for years and always glad to see them modernize the UI more, but the one thing I desperately want is .stl and/or .3mf thumbnailers to just work with Nautilus. Tried several times to set up in Fedora using f3d, but instead just get blurry question mark thumbnails

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
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[-] Mio@feddit.nu 5 points 1 year ago

Please also remove the text places and make use of that space

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Looks nice, but if I could trade these visual gimmicks for a type-ahead feature, I would do so in a heartbeat.

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[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gotta keep up with Apple you know ahah

Only if they could copy the original Exposé from macOS Tiger.

I just want someone to finally copy column view from Finder. I know Ranger has it but it would be nice if Nautilus or Dolphin would implement it.

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