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Mongolian officials "have the obligation" to arrest Vladimir Putin if he visits the country next week, the International Criminal Court (ICC) has said.

The trip, expected to happen on Tuesday, will be the first time the Russian leader has visited an ICC member nation since the court ordered his arrest in March 2023.

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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 123 points 2 months ago

Mongolia doesnt share a border with two belligerent superpowers. Two belligerent superpowers share a border with Mongolia.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Superpowers? China and what else? You mean the country up north that can't finish their 3 day operation in Ukraine has no economical or geopolitical significance and no one put them in corner only because they have nukes?

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

China and the second strongest army in Russia.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 19 points 2 months ago

Ever since Ukraine invaded it's actually the third strongest army in Russia.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I thought Wagner was integrated back into the main army.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago

I think they are still their own thing, but were made to do a pledge of allegiance to Russia.

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Originally it was, but after the death of the guy Wagner was fully integrated and dispersed into the Russian Military.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I still can't believe he was dumb enough to get on a plane after all that.

[-] FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

Was he dumb, or did the Putin regime threaten him with nad consequences if he didn't get in?

I don't want to spread rumors or anything, but the stupidity theory sounds a bit fishy.

[-] dezmd@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

China and Northern Mongolia?

So disappointed to discover that BBC updated the headline and the article (and no more than six hours later)...

New headline: Ukraine calls on Mongolia to arrest Putin ahead of visit

An ICC spokesperson told the BBC that Mongolian officials "have the obligation" to abide by ICC regulations, but clarified that this did not necessarily mean an arrest had to take place.

The agreement says in some circumstances, states may be exempted from the obligation to carry out an arrest where they would be forced to "breach a treaty obligation" with another state or where it would violate "diplomatic immunity of a person or property of a third state".

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

In other words, it's absolutely mandatory in all situations except for all the time everywhere.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

It's a vibe.

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[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

All the good ones were taken.

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 months ago

It would be hard to do given Mongolia’s geographic situation of being next to two military superpowers

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

You mean the great Mongolian Armed Forces bordering cowardly Russia? Russia physically could not invade Mongolia rn. China might but I doubt they would stir the pot that much over Putin.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

NCD on reddit had the idea of just putting him on a plane straight to USA, as there would be little to no possibility of China or Russia firing on a plane holding Putin.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Why the USA they themselves are not committed to the process and are not where the ICC is based.

Some Team America ideas.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

I'm not going to blame Mongolia if they just ignore that. They do not have any ability to hold him.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Would be the funniest twist this century though. Common n Mongols, have some humour!

[-] neidu2@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago

I'm having a hard time seeing why they couldn't. It'd be a dipl9matic disaster for them to simply go "yeah, we lied" and arrest him, but on the other hand, I don't see what russia could possibly do. Sure, medvedev will throw yhe usual hissyfit and threaten with invasion, but.... he and which army?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well China happens to really like Putin. And both countries have special forces that are more than capable of grabbing him back without a wider war. But Mongolia is also land locked and not super developed on it's own. So it's likely to suffer a complete air and ground blockade until they give either country enough to make them forget it happened.

There is no upside to Mongolia doing this. They aren't strong enough to pull it off. And there are large consequences.

[-] Jordan117@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Not going to happen. Even if Mongolia were somehow immune to retaliation, Russia has like a 90% approval rating there.

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

Russia physically cannot invade Mongolia rn, I doubt they could invade parts of Russia if they declared independence.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Do it, states. Doooo eeeeet.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

Time to send a sacrificial body double then.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That would be hilarious if they arrested Putin but he just continued ruling the country from Moscow.

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 15 points 2 months ago

Would be more funny if real Putin was arrested and body double would take over ruling as if nothint happened. Entire Russia just denying the existence of real Putin.

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Putin Truthers having a big day!

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

So will Mongolia lose its ICC rights when it doesn't, or will they just feign attempt to feign a "we tried to arrest him, but he got away damnit!"?

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

You cant ask a country like mongolia to commit suicide just because.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Then it can just leave as a member of the ICC if it cannot fulfill its obligations.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

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