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[–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I will never understand spending your life fucking everybody over for power and wealth and not taking a few years to enjoy the spoils of your goulism.

Like what's the point?

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

You misunderstand what makes Nancy tick. It's not about making money, it's about taking money

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

enjoy the spoils of your goulism

She is enjoying political office. That's the joy she gets from life: fucking everybody over for power and wealth. good-morning

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

It's a do nothing job, she's basically already on vacation like 3/4 of the year.

It’s not about the money. It’s about the adrenochrome. They would have died 20 years ago if they didn’t have access to the spice.

[–] Judge_Juche@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

The current arrangement of the House might be perfect for Democrats, like they technically aren't in power so they don't have to do any governing but the Republicans can't do anything either becuase of their razor thin majority, which means people aren't demanding the Dems respond to anything either.

Like they've just been sitting around doing nothing, getting paid and occasionally giving money to Ukraine.

[–] learn3code@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have some compassion, she lost part of her retirement in FTX and needs a few more years of insider trading to get back on her feet.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

She's pulling herself up by her kente straps liberalism

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh say does that star spangled baaaanneeeeer still waaaaaaaave.. o'er the laaaaaaand of the freeeeeeee, and the hoooooome of theeee braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave. amerikkka-clap

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It rules that US politicians are now literally ghouls in the Fallout sense since they can call everyone else "smoothskin".

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

70+ needs to be the cut off.

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Forced retirement at 65. Final offer.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

55 and we take away voting rights every five years after that in reverse order of the size of the polity. national then state then county etc until you're 80 and don't get a say in what's for dinner or on tv.

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

This is the hottest thing anyone has ever said to me

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Logan's Run for Office

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago
[–] Finger@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

no more half measures walter

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone seriously needs to make a cryptkeeper emoji

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

exasperated screaming

[–] s20@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

We need term limits for Congress and mandatory retirement ages for all branches of government. Imma say... 65.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Finger@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

no more half measures walter

regular revolutions against the government is quite the idea, but we'll try it out

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago
[–] CatoPosting@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I don't think term limits would help, but I'd love us to have a mandatory retirement age nation wide which just happens to include Congress.

[–] MultigrainCerealista@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Term limits are a mistake.

It seems appealing to be able to force corruptible goons like Pelosi out but the problem is the supply of corruptible goons is endless so you’ll just be replacing her with someone equally ghoulish and beholden to the ruling class.

And the supply of good leaders who represent the people is very small so the effect of term limits is to replace the good with the bad far more often than the bad with the good.

By rotating politicians on a short term basis you are forcing public politics to operate with short term vision, meaning long term planning is left in the hands of the opaque think tanks and the donor class.

Now, in the USA obviously that’s a moot point because all politicians are already beholden to the bourgeoisie but think about for example Xi in China. The neoliberal faction in China had imposed term limits precisely because they wanted to hobble the ability of any Chinese leader to effect change by limiting their term of power, which was in actual fact a transfer of power to “institutional” power (such as banking) and the long term planning of private power centers such as corporations.

Or look at the introduction of term limits in the USA. FDR was a lib but he was a social welfare lib and even that was too much for the piggy class of the USA to bare. The popularity of sharing at least some of the wealth in the USA made FDR enormously popular and so the bourgeoisie demanded term limits to prevent any future populist from doing that again.

Term limits serve the interests of private capital and not the interests of the people because corrupt goons are highly replaceable meaning it doesn’t matter if you rotate them rapidly but principled populists are rare and so should be preserved in power.

[–] s20@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I see your point. I stand by the retirement age, though.

[–] pmarcilus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe don't make congress work to be a career work and instead elects only those who have labour works outside the congress.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's footage of her schmoozing with JFK just incase you want to understand how decrepit she is.