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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 92 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

This is why setting borders based on rivers is fundamentally flawed.

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 months ago

I mean, you say that now, but if someone stood on the other side of the river and shot arrows at you, would you really disagree with them?

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Point Roberts has entered the chat

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Such a stupid border decision. They should have fixed it in the territory swaps a few years ago.

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

They should just secede from the union and be a small city state.

Would it benefit anyone? No. Would it be very costly to make the transition and potentially wreak havoc on the community? Absolutely. But would it create a sense of civic pride and feel good for the residents of Point Roberts? Also no.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What territory swaps a few years ago?

It's also too late now, even if you come to a political agreement you'd have to buy them out, have to hear about unseating American families, and I doubt Canada is willing to do that. What's the point for that insignificant land?

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

A while ago (late 90s?) they straightened the border and reevaluated land along the 49th parallel. Some towns switched countries.

[–] Gingernate@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

Northwest angle

[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago

It's all arbitrary anyway...

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why? Apart from such cases being rare, everyone gets a half island

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Because they change and move over time. This river definitely didn't start out like this and it almost certainly will look very different in just a few years' time.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Just recently my country exchanged land with a neighbouring country to adjust for the changes of water, each giving and gaining the same amount of land. When water marks the border it's much easier to know when you're crossing it.

Edit: looked it up: in march we (Austria) traded 239 m² with Liechtenstein

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Good point, that's a cool solution too!

I know they're rich, but they're so small, you should have just let them keep it.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

The alternative is pretty fucking stupid too. Imagine losing access to your freshwater because the river shifted across an imaginary line. At least when the border is the river, you always have access to the river.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 70 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Sooner or later they're going to become meander scars or oxbow lakes, when the river reconnects with itself.

[–] Dabundis@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Known in Australia as Billabongs

[–] motor_spirit@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

this just shed light on one of my fav song titles by an aussie group, thank you

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

walzing mathilda jumpscare

[–] evidences@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My first thought when seeing this was future home of an ox bow lake

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

And not far future! Both bends are within a couple of trees in missing each other.

For those not on the water much, see the beach on the left of the top bow? The opposite side is where the water is deeper and faster. It'll chew through that bank and meet the other side soon enough.

[–] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Holy fuck that oxbow lake schematic on wikipedia looks earily like a vessicle coming of a piece of membrane

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The only thing I know about vesicles is that microvesicles are gross... thanks to paleobotanist Dr. Ellie Sattler.

[–] chauncey@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

See those "pinch points"? The river will eventually form meander cutoffs, and become a sinuous system rather than a meandering river. This will lead to localized increases in channel slope (due to a reduction in channel length), and therefore increased local velocities, shear stress, and sediment transport.

Rivers are always seeking equilibrium, so the channel will actually start to move (bank erosion / lateral shifting) to reduce that localized slope and bring things back in order.

Rivers are so fucking cool.

[–] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As someone who doesn't know river lingo, can you translate this?

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

River tangled. River no like tangle. River cut off curvy bits. Connects back to make a less curvy path of least resistance.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

curvy bits eventually meet and water go straight, make lakes.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Ah few words better

[–] IGuessThisIsForNSFW@yiffit.net 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What's the hells an oxbow?! Are our bovine friends fashioning weaponry? Someone should tell me, do I need to buy a shield?

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oxbow is when a flowing body of water curves out like this over time. Eventually it will redirect to the older, more direct course, leaving an arc of unflowing water called an oxbow lake. This one might have two.

[–] IGuessThisIsForNSFW@yiffit.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I was just quoting Mr.Weebl's old video about the subject, probably should have linked it in my original comment XD Youtube link

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
[–] Phen 12 points 2 months ago

I don't know much about rivers but based on the floods we had here in Brazil early this year, I don't think that house will be there by the end of the century.

[–] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yo but who is living in that little blue house, that must be sick

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] mhague@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The one with the blue little window.

[–] sudoshakes@reddthat.com 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Raverbunny@aussie.zone 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And everything is blue for him...

[–] levzzz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

And himself and everybody around...

[–] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Or green* might have had a night filter on my phone when i posted that haha

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

I'm surprised no one shared that

https://youtu.be/8a3r-cG8Wic

[–] hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There was no one by the name Tom Bigbee, it seems.

source

The name “Tombigbee” comes from Choctaw “itumbi ikbi“, which means “box maker” or “coffin maker”. There are many stories and legends about how this name came to be. One story is the river was named after a box maker who lived on some of the Tombigbee’s headwaters. Another story is based on the need for box making in the area to ship pelts during the French-dominated fur trade in the 1700’s.

Umm... Choctaw

are a Native American people originally based in the Southeastern Woodlands, in what is now Mississippi and Alabama.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Makes sense for it to be a Choctaw name, then. Isn't the tombigby in, like, Tennessee or something?

[–] hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't know. My geographical knowledge of North America isn't good. :) Google maps points to Alabama and Mississippi, when I ask it about the river's name.

[–] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Reminds me of a Wild Thornberrys episode I saw when I was a kid where they fell off a boat and needed to cross a mountain to catch it on the other side.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Is it an oxbow or a puppyhammer?