but unlike most religion, being a jedi or sith comes with real superpowers that you can use to choke, shock, or push the non-believers without touching them
He was correct too in a way. It wasn't The Force that was keeping the Galaxy in line, it was economic and logistical power. If anything, it was the Sith's constant need for conflict and backstabbing seeping into the officer corps that hampered The Empire, and the Tarkin Doctrine is what happens when you base your military strategy on the whims and wishes of an autocratic religious fanatic.
Imagine you were to do this shit after someone talking about how Jesus will strike sinners down, then suddenly a buff Jesus appears and chokes you out a little bit. Thats what this guy went through.
Leave Korean Jesus alone. He ain't got time for yo problems. He busy. With Korean shit.
I don’t think he wasn’t believing in the force, he knew Jedi were real, he just wasn’t buying the mysticism surrounding it and didn’t think it’s such a big deal. He knew Vader is a powerful force user, but the Death Star is literally one shotting entire planets, so the force didn’t feel that significant to him in the grand scheme of things.
He said he didn't know about the force before he even knew the Death Star existed.
I think it's very silly to think there is a galactic civilization but the people in that civilization don't know, even though there's absolutely no secret about it, that magic exists.
Is Han really that ignorant of what's going on around him? I doubt he'd be that effective a smuggler if he didn't pay attention to news and politics.
How many Jedi are there during their peak? I think it's around ten thousand jedi. Compared to the galaxy population of 100 quadrillion sentient beings spread across the galaxy, I'm not too surprised a lot of people thought they're a myth.
Okay, but we're not talking about a bunch of inconsequential people. This is an ancient order of magicians who has a lot of control over their government. And then one of the magicians becomes the emperor of the galaxy with his magic power. And all of that when Han Solo was alive. Young, but alive.
It's like saying a knowledgeable guy like Han Solo in our world wouldn't know about Reagan getting shot. He was born in the 70s, he took history classes, he read up stuff on his own, he heard older people talk about it... but he didn't know it happened.
Calls Vader's religion bullshit
Gets telepathically choked out
Vader: "Oh I guess it doesn't hurt since it's all bullshit, huh? I find your lack of faith disturbing. Especially since you've seen me do this shit, like, a million times before."
He was actually criticising the mystical thinking of the Sith, not the scientific reality of midichlorians.
Wasn't he more criticizing the scale? Like, a sith warrior is great, but he can't really compete with the power of the Death Star when it comes to sheer scale. Just ask Alderaan.
In case someone also wondered who this is, here is a summary. Dude is hardcore
Darth Nihilus: A Sith Lord's Hunger for Power and Destruction
• Darth Nihilus, a Human male, rose as a Dark Lord of the Sith after the Jedi Civil War, driven by an insatiable hunger for Force energy.
• He was found by Darth Traya and trained to feed his hunger, eventually becoming one of three Sith Lords in a triumvirate.
• Nihilus' hunger consumed him, leading him to destroy entire planets and absorb their Force energy, including the devastation of Katarr.
• He formed a powerful bond with his Shadow Hand, Visas Marr, who could support and weaken him in battle.
• Nihilus' pursuit of a growing Force presence led him to clash with Meetra Surik, a former Jedi, and ultimately met his demise at the hands of Surik and her allies.
Meanwhile, in real life, we don't have space wizards who can perform magic, yet we have generals who live in fear of magical leaders of make believe religions.
because they have millions of followers they don't want to piss off.
Cult followings are the highest form of magecraft.
"Bruh, we're trying to get this project done on time and under budget, talking about space magic isn't going to-"
"we need to stop cutting corners and put a cover over that hole that blows up the whole station if someone drops a rock in it"
You seem to have too much time to waste. Here, I've just cut your jira ticket deadline by a week. Pray I don't cut it further.
We will reconvene this meeting at 5:20.
People are complaining about Motti not knowing Jedi were real. But how many times did we see things written down, much less recorded video/holograms?
In this essay on how recorded media was made illegal by the Empire to clamp down on shared knowledge and control the public, I will prove without a doubt...
He would have been in the military during the Clone Wars. They served as Generals in the Republic armies. If he had not witnessed the exploits of the Jedi first hand, he most likely would have seen and heard the reports.
Fahrenheit 451 is canonical prequel to Star wars.
When I saw this scene as a kid, I thought Motti coughed up the yellow button on the console. I didn't know what it was at the time and thought Vader somehow put some yellow choking pill inside him. It was very disturbing to me. This was before I knew what a Force choke was.
So you're saying you find his lack of puke... disturbing.
I used to think roughly the same thing. I thought that Vader choking him caused him to puke up an egg.
Fucking ballsy considering tons of Jedi existed when he was a kid.
"Tons"
The galactic empire (and the republic before it) spanned billions of inhabited star systems. If each world was billions or trillions of inhabitants that means the galactic population is 10^18^ or more people. There were only ~10,000 Jedi at their peak. The chances of any galactic citizen seeing a Jedi, unless they lived on Coruscant near the temple, are vanishingly small. They were mythical beings to almost everyone.
TBF a 9 yr old slaveboy on an outer rim planet knew what a Jedi was.
Yes, and with childlike naivety he believed those mystical heroes really exist.
An admiral of the imperial navy is above such childish myths.
Are you saying that scene was the first time that admiral ever met or heard of Darth Vader?
That's what the scene implies. The whole scene makes no sense after the backstory that the prequels added.
The idea of the scene is that we, the viewer, have no idea what the force is yet. Just like character who learns the hard way. Because this is the first Star Wars movie and they haven't even started calling it Episode 4 yet.
If you want to play that way, technically using a 2000lb ton, you'd only need 20-30 Jedi for there to be "Tons"
The Jedi by that point were as accessible as the heads of the Catholic Church. To most poor people throughout the galaxy, the Jedi didn't give a shit about you or your suffering, notice how they didn't do shit about slavery in the galaxy? To most people the Jedi were nothing but self righteous religious do nothings that live in a big palace
I'm sure he was celebrated for his strength. His body wasn't just tossed out with the rest of the garbage. Not at all.
True heroes aren't appreciated in their time.
And he (Admiral Motti) got the first name of Conan by George Lucas while on the Conan O'Brien show!
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