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submitted 1 day ago by lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org to c/news@lemmy.world

I am not a teen.

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[-] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

So I've noticed that there are a lot of streaming movies and TV shows that match a lot of these patterns:

  • IP is announced. Adaptation of extremely popular series with existing fanbase
  • IP is billed as "adult" with "mature themes"
  • Producer/Director goes on a podcast and compares IP to "Game of Thrones" a few weeks before release. Said comparison treats GoT as an ideal to aspire to instead of a cautionary tale.
  • Producer/Director also insults existing fanbase for some reason
  • IP is previewed to critics, gets amazing reviews
  • IP comes out, and gets high streaming numbers day one
  • Writing ends up being terrible
  • Plot ends up being surface level, with all the subtly of the original adaptation cut out. This somehow is true now matter how basic the source material may seem
  • Acting is terrible. There is at least one race swapped character, who they also butcher from a writing perspective
  • VFX is terrible, and expensive scenes are cut out
  • Costumes are terrible to the point where everything looks like shitty cosplay
  • There's a few violent scenes that are extremely gratuitous. VFX and writing are so bad that it's comical instead of jarring
  • There are a few random sex scenes thrown in. The sex scenes detract from the pacing of the story, and are blatantly thrown in so producers can brag about them
  • Sex scenes tend to focus on the female form. If men are involved, they all are hairless and look like boy band members
  • If it is a gay sex scene, it blatantly written by women and for women with an extremely limited knowledge of men as a whole
  • In a few days, the Internet erupts with needlessly vitriolic discourse about said IP.
  • A year post release, the show is essentially forgotten.

In that context it's no surprise younger people don't like sex scenes. It's basically a canary for a low quality show and extreme toxicity.

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[-] acetanilide@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

I've been saying this for so long. Don't get me wrong, some films do make sense to have sex scenes. But there are so many that either have hardcore (for TV) sex scenes or just random full nudity that makes it nearly impossible to watch with anyone other than my partner or close friends.

Like if I recommend a film or show to someone and completely forget that it had sex or even just nudity in it, it usually wasn't important to the story. On the other hand, it may have made sense to include in the film but it was so terribly done that I promptly blocked it out.

The other issue is that it has become increasingly difficult to find any shows that either don't include sex scenes, or don't have ridiculous levels of violence, or whatever else is difficult for me to deal with when I just want something easy to watch that's not a kid's movie (although kid's movies have their own set of issues).

Streaming services don't even make it easy to find something to watch - they show you the same stuff over and over, or they pretend that everything is in English when they include so many other languages in the selections. If I am unable to pay attention to the captions then I would prefer to have something in English without trying a bunch of different shows first. I mean I guess this is partly (mainly?) my fault since I've failed to learn another language despite years of studying. But I think it just irritates me that they lie about it more than anything.

Idk I am off topic now and this has turned into a really long comment that probably doesn't say anything that hasn't already been said in this thread.

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 6 points 17 hours ago

Maybe find less prudish friends? There's nothing wrong with bodies.

[-] Makhno@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Nah, it's useless filler meant to bring in a brain-dead sex deprived audience. Fuck it

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[-] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 20 points 21 hours ago

The number of sex scenes are down since 2000 of the movies coming out of Hollywood. But if you're willing to read subtitles, there's still a lot of horny videos coming out of Western Europe.

For me, make the sex relevant to the plot and make the sex they have congruent with the characters.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 23 points 20 hours ago

I have noticed over the years sex scenes usually add no value to the movie. If the sex scene was removed completely it wouldn’t change the story at all.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, while I do enjoy seeing occasional boobs (which most of the time aren't even showed), if I want to watch sex, I'll just put on some porn.

IMO, The Room is one of the few movies where the sex scenes added anything. And even then, they didn't add anything to the plot, they added to the meta plot, which was the story of a guy with a passionate vision but lacking the talent to pull off that vision, which IMO Wiseau does have talent doing, since he's been able to recreate that same feeling in other content, making me think he's playing a character (Tommy Wiseau the producer) he wants the audience to laugh at.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 9 points 18 hours ago

I can understand that now that we have access to easy-direct--instant-proper porn that sex scenes are less appealing to the majority of people.

When I was a kid they would definitely include a sex scene just so that people looking to jerk off would be willing to watch or buy.

[-] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 17 hours ago

Yeah but, sex scenes in movies and sex in porn are hardly even the same thing. They're so wildly different, I don't see how one could be a replacement for the other.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 15 hours ago

True, but they can still get you (especially during Puberty) horny.

I think thats what these kids are actually complaining about. They're used to getting turned on and immediately being able to satisfy themselves on their phones. But during a movie they've got to wait another hour before they can releave themselves and that's frustrating for them.

[-] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 15 hours ago

Ahh... that's an angle I hadn't thought of...

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 5 points 16 hours ago

When porn was less accessible they could definitely be in the realm. Now it's more often bad soft core or HBO style taking up too much of an episode without moving the plot.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Growing up my friend had a special VHS tape he'd rent movies and record the sex scenes to. He was pretty sheltered and just didn't have access to much else.

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[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

More confirmation the world is right to see us as backwards. (US study)

So many sexual hangups. Makes sense considering we were founded by Puritans escaping to the new world to be more backwards and repressed.

Sex is a part of life. A massive part of the human condition. A part to be celebrated, not mourned or minimized. That's how we get pedophile priests and sexual education summed up in "do not do it because it does not exist and you're dirty for asking." It's not Gen Zs fault though, social media is designed to emphasize the darkest possible side of everything as it gets clicks, so sex as a concept is just a vector of potential trauma to them.

If only we had the same hangups about our violence boners our media gluts us on with abandon. Sports concussions, gory explosion movies, and our most celebrated exports tools of mass murder 😎👍. People giving one another physical pleasure 😱👎.

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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

If I want to watch sex in a movie, I’ll watch a porno in my basement sex dungeon. If I want to watch something with family and friends without that weird awkward moment when SEX starts happening, I’ll watch a movie without a pointless sex scene in it.

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[-] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 21 hours ago

“Social media is the most authentic?”

GenZ is fucked. Although not literally

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

The kids are right.

[-] Justas@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 day ago

If there's a 1 minute sex scene in a 90 minute movie, you're guaranteed to have your parents walk in during that one sex scene.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 186 points 1 day ago

If it does not serve a purpose for the plot, then it’s not needed. Simple as that.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

My issue is that it's almost always gratuitous now. I so rarely see a sex scene in a TV show or movie and think that it could have easily been skipped, but they felt the need to show an actress' breasts and have her simulate an orgasm.

I don't get titillated by it. I have porn if I need that.

I didn't get past the first episode of Game of Thrones because I found all the sex and nudity too gratuitous for my tastes.

I don't think I'm a prude. I have no problem with sex scenes and nudity in films where they make sense. Basic Instinct wouldn't make sense without them. Last Tango in Paris wouldn't make sense without them. They're both movies worth watching.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

To be honest that particular sex scene is pretty central to their story and Bran's story. It could have been less gratuitous but the actual point of him catching them in the act drives the rest of their story lines.

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[-] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

I think, at least in the GoT example, sexual situations can be used to communicate a lot about the attitudes and culture around sex and nudity in the universe of the show or movie. It's much more interesting than somebody saying, "Hey, person who already knows this: it's considered normal for men to use brothels, isn't it?"

It's much less interesting and necessary for something set in the "current" world, since the audience doesn't need as much education in the social mores. However, it can make the work have better instructive longevity if it's an accurate depiction of the time, since people fifty years in the future can watch and understand what was different.

But I do agree that overall there has been a lot of gratuitous nudity and sex, just the same with violence, etc.

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[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 5 points 19 hours ago

Pandering to teenagers is how you end up with plotlines wrapping up like oh thankfully Wesley found a solution in the last five minutes

Teenagers should be touching grass, or hucking loogies at cars, go outside and dig a hole or something, log off

[-] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

They have to hook and tag them early or they can't cash in on the nostalgia later.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago

I'm not a teen (far from it), but I'm with the kids on this one. The vast majority of sex scenes in movies are awful. They're awkward and totally unrealistic. It completely takes you out of the movie. Most sex scenes are not engrossing or engaging, they don't immerse you in the story, they push you out of it.

Most every sex scene feels like it was made by someone who's never had sex. Every angle is the right angle, every thrust is ecstasy, it's nonsense. It's like someone who thinks the covers of romance novels are depictions of real life.

There are a lot of intimate moments that can be portrayed convincingly enough on film, but sex is rarely one of them. And it's just not necessary. Let the audience infer, let us use our imaginations.

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