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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 37 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

An alternative title is "Newsom declares candidacy for US President in 2028 election". He is certainly casting himself as the heel in the kayfabe that will be US politics in the next four years.

Edited to add: He is term limited, and his term runs out in 2026. So he will have nothing better to do.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 37 points 17 hours ago

Please no, he's just another limousine liberal, up there with Hillary and the gang. I think people are done with that. Let's get some real revolutionaries in there.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I'll vote for the actual limousine if it has a chance of beating the next MAGA candidate, whether it's Vance, Trump Jr, or Donald Trump with a fake mustache that fools no one but his voters. (And as long as that limousine wins a contested primary.)

[-] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

That's the issue with the hard right candidates, people keep settling for Republican-lite Dems that don't address core economic problems because they're left in comparison, then predictably they lose to far right politicians when their moderate reforms don't do anything other than provide temporary relief. We need actual left politicians to institute radical structural changes if we ever want to break this cycle. Or a revolution, but given the way this country is going I have no faith that the victors in that would be on the left

[-] skvlp@lemm.ee 8 points 16 hours ago
[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago
[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

No, please no. Newsom is a textbook greasy CA neoliberal, a Newsom presidency would do next to nothing for the working class and bring a load of benefits to the wealthy.

I generally support his policies on education, environmental protection and long term economic stability but his positions on housing, single payer healthcare, corruption and democratic representation are awful.

So far he's: vetoed a statewide upzoning bill that would get dense housing built statewide near public transit corridors, vetoed ranked preference voting across CA, opposed single payer healthcare and let the CPUC ride roughshod over utility customers and saddle them with PG&E's felonious wildfire liability. The dude is Grey Davis's protege and was basically raised by the Getty family, he's absolutely not the candidate to run in a tight economy where populism is surging.

Edit: fun fact, we called him Teflon Gavin when he ran San Francisco. Nothing sticks to this guy's PR. Fox news consumers have had 10+y of "commie California's Gavin Newsom" poured into their heads in preparation for his eventual Whitehouse run and that will matter when he presents his slick well-fed wealthy self to middle America.

[-] ericatty@lemmy.ml 5 points 13 hours ago

You left out that he was married to Kimberly Guilfoyle

[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Oh yeah, and after that he had the church of scientology throwing a parade of women at him to see if one would stick.

He's the textbook old money nepobaby and while I have no qualms about his competence (they prepared him for big money politics extremely well) I don't think he's the change the working class wants to see in America. He certainly hasn't brought much change to CA outside of funding primary education. We haven't even begun to tackle living conditions for the bottom 80% here, he's just a less bad option than whatever unpopular Republican ends up running against him. All of the social reform that actually works (boosting minimum wage, providing single payer healthcare, running cooperative local utilities or tackling corruption) is happening at the city and county level, there's a lot of resistance from Sacramento when anyone brings these up as statewide policies.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

I dont want him to run. I'm tired of seeing neoliberal-lite candidates running and being forces to hold my nose "bcz the other candidate is worse."

We can and should do better than this guy.

[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Newsom isn't neoliberal light, he's about as neoliberal as it's possible to be

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 20 points 17 hours ago

Newsome can do whatever he wants, but aside from seceding, there isn't anything to stop P2025 now.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago

Except California has the 5th largest economy in the world. Good luck running the U.S. without their tax dollars.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

That is secession. You're trying to push a different agenda here.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Not pushing anything. They've threatened to stop paying taxes before. Look it up.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

A threat is way different.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 16 hours ago

It's crazy how often Lucy can yank that football away from you chumps.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Wow, your comment history is wild dude...just had to have a look.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The problem with the incoming fascist reality is that people like you think acknowledging that reality is "wild"

[-] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

I'd support a threat of secession.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago

Great.

See the Wikipedia of every other state who has tried under an non-authoritarian regime over the past 100 years.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

The Tenth Amendment states

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

So there are a fair amount of domestic affairs that California can take care of on its own. So Newsom cannot stop Project 2025, but he can make plans so that California citizens are not quite so adversely affected when certain administrative departments go poof.

Expect liberal states to make a point of scrutinizing this clause and suing the Federal Government when they think it has overstepped its bounds.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

The GOP has the White House. And the Senate. And the House of Representatives. And the Supreme Court. The constitution says whatever they want it to say.

[-] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

And the MAGA administration and supreme court will just laugh in our faces. We're toast, man.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 7 points 16 hours ago

This is true and good. But with the Supreme Court in Trump's pocket the results may not be great.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

The Tenth Amendment states

~~The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.~~ Whatever the fuck Trump's handpicked SCOTUS says it states.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world -5 points 13 hours ago

Enough with the world is ending bullshit. Republicans have been touting states rights for decades if not centuries. Look at the shithole that Florida has become now that it’s a gop state.

California has plenty of avenues to protect themselves from GOP bullshit

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

The world is literally ending as we know it, Dipshit.

Glad you get your eggs a few bucks cheaper though. It's totally what matters.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world -2 points 13 hours ago

Ok 👌 bring that same energy in 2 years during mid terms. No wonder our party is cooked. It’s full of quitters like you. If the world didn’t end in 2016 it’s not gonna end now. If you don’t believe that then quit your job, spend your entire life savings and live your life to the fullest.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

There will not be elections in two years, you moron.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world -2 points 12 hours ago

Ok go to your nearest bank and spend all your money on blow and hookers. It’s over. Life is over as we know it. Delete your Lemmy account while your at it. No need for internet anymore since the world is ending and trump will ban all communications.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Yes. Life is over for many people as we know it, and your idiotic attempt at humor is fucking disgusting.

  • Ukraine will be gone, and millions of people will be held at gunpoint if they refuse to comply.
  • Palestine is over, and there won't be any two-state solution. They are absolutey going to be eradicated.
  • China will move to take Taiwan
  • Russia will keep moving into the EU
  • NATO will cease

What in the fuck do you think is happening right now that is positive you consider fucking Russian plant.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago
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