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Hey everyone, I've removed bans for everyone that did not request one in the previous admin thread. (I think. If you got banned and I didn't restore your account yet, let me know and I'll fix it.) Don't worry! We're not gonna just ban people for no reason.

In case anyone hasn't seen it yet, Alaskaball confirmed that Sangria was their admin alt. They were messing around with their admin tools on their own account and figured it would be seen as a funny bit, but without being informed of the bit many of the mods and admins were just as shocked, confused, and appalled as you were. I've talked to the other admins and mods, and we're all gonna take it easy on bits for a bit. (Pun intended. This is the last one, I promise.)

If you're afraid that there's been an infiltration of transphobic, egomaniacal wrecker mods who hate the users, I want to assure you that's absolutely not the case. The overwhelming majority of mods and admins on this site are trans. Our admins are all trusted, long-time users in good standing. We regularly browse, comment, and post on our main accounts. You post and chat with us daily as comrades, and we value all of you. You may not recognize the usernames on our admin accounts because we regularly swap the alts used for admin privileges. This is why you'll see really old or unused alt accounts as well as really new accounts on the admin team.

I've seen a lot of speculation down below, some entertaining, some upsetting. We absolutely do not accept transphobia or any form of bigotry on this site. Some of the statements provided by mods and admins have been seen as transphobic and bioessentialist. I want to offer some transparency, but also clarify that I can't get much more specific on this for personal security reasons.

During the earlier discussions on how we felt things could be improved with these communities, multiple trans mods and admins described their reasoning in favour of the change by expressing with a variety of wording that it's the [he/him] demographic in particular that has been the source of toxic and troubling behavior in the tanks. That the he/hims haven't been beating the accusations, so to speak. With that group being largely cishet white guys on this site, these two terms were assumed to roughly correlate. We weren't making prepared statements for release, the comments that got posted here were paraphrased and combined from more casual comments made by trans people, in the mod chat to mostly other trans people about some of the chauvinistic and ironically bigoted posting habits that they saw as alienating and unhealthy for the site, and what we could do to improve the situation. We genuinely didn't foresee the potential for a miscommunication of those statements as being bioessentialist, and want to extend our sincerest apologies for the misunderstanding.

Edit: Please feel welcome to post in c/gossip as you would have posted in the_dunk_tank, and in c/counterpropaganda as you would have posted in the_dredge_tank.

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[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 33 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Another struggle session i'm too offline to have seen.

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[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 59 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I’m sorry but it’s amusing to me that one by one the admins are having to come out to be individually yelled at like the two minutes hate 1984

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[–] m532@hexbear.net 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It seems like I had the user that was the wrecker already blocked for being an unfunny ableist "troll" aka schrödingers asshole

Eat shit, wreckers

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[–] DeathToBritain@hexbear.net 52 points 4 days ago (9 children)

anybody else kinda embarassed after looking at the Lemmygrad thread asking what the fuck is going on with us

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[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 49 points 4 days ago (5 children)

After seventy two trillions resignation, i think its important that you distinguish between a decision making moderator and a clean up moderator. STT is resigning on the basis of making a bad decision or whatever, but him having the ability to clean up the megathread from wreckers is still important (unless he really doesnt want to be an internet janitor anymore) I dont know if this would have to be implemented at the lemmy level but i still think its an important idea

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[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 53 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

just wanna put this here, it was a reply I made to Yukiko in another thread, I deleted it to not do struggle-posting in another thread:

it is very ironic, I typed up a reply to your last post in that thread, saying that I was hesitant to criticize the situation or even report the post in question for misgendering, out of fear of catching a stray ban because of it. I didn't end up posting it because of that fear, and then you got banned. never felt that way on Hexbear before, of all places.

it's very fucked, for the longest time I always felt Hexbear was a place where I could come and speak my mind with comrades who are all generally on the same page as me. conversations can happen, behavior and choices could be criticized, and we could all grow as a group. I honestly no longer feel that way. I appreciate everything the mods/admins do on a day to day basis, it's a thankless gig you volunteer for, and it's fucked what you have to deal with sometimes. but the behavior in that previous thread felt simply disgusting.

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Is it possible to deanonymize mod actions in the modlog to provide accountability for individuals abusing power like what happened here?

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[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

definitely a step in the right direction! it is mind boggling how much this was all blown out of proportion, Awoo had the most succinct take on the whole matter i think.

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[–] Karma_404@hexbear.net 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Maybe someone should consider doing effort post after things have calmed down a bit on how everything that can went wrong, did went wrong in the stupidest struggle session yet.

Just keeping a record of hexbear week where decade happened and perhaps to look back and laugh on the dumbness of it all in the future.

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