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[-] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago

Non-americans really love this weird bogus narrative.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's probably because the loudest and most overly defensive ones are the Americans you're most likely to encounter and remember in online arguments and on American news, so that colors the perception. Especially when you don't live amongst the more reasonable majority of Americans 🤷

[-] scv@discuss.online 19 points 1 year ago

That is not my experience at all. Most Americans get extremely defensive when someone criticizes the US, even people who know better. Many are ok with specific criticism (like, healthcare sucking), but it doesn't take much for them to revert to 'murican mode.

I have been living in the US for over a decade and been to 2/3rds of the states.

[-] pthaloblue@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

Most Americans have their talking points ready to go around certain topics: healthcare, guns etc. But if you get anything that attacks the capitalism, building the country off of slave labor, or the country being the product of a genocide, that's when the propaganda really kicks in.

Oh and if you call it propaganda, then the denialism gets even stronger.

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Spaniard here, you get very, very similar reactions here from a lot of people (possibly a lower percentage) if you dare to question the process of colonization or call out the barbaric behavior of some historical figures that have become a part of the national myth. Nationalism is a brain disease.

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[-] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I'm starting to get this feeling too. Most of the Americans I know, myself included, rip America a new one at any given opportunity.

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[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Sometimes it’s a case of you can make fun of your own country but no one else is allowed to.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Nobody talks more shit about America than Americans.

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[-] WiildFiire@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago

American: makes any sort of joke about any country, even if it's the smallest most unoffending thing

Person from that country : ur children get shot in schools

[-] gonzo0815@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 year ago

We might overuse that comeback, but at least we don't have school shootings.

[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay, but you do realize that comeback makes you look bad right, not us? No matter your reasons or intentions, you are mocking children being murdered. Like in the example below:

American: lol British people eat spotted dicks.

A brit: lol American children get shot at school.

Wow. What a zinger, you really got me with that one, a fool I was to not recognize the comedy of children dying horrifically.

(To be clear, I didn't come up with that example randomly. I've seen the mocking of spotted dick be met with "lol child murder" more than once)

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

They're mocking us for letting children get murdered. Don't get all civility politics up in here if you can't even grasp the concept of the jab.

[-] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Is spotted dick political? I suppose us americans should have known it was a contentious subject that warrants jokes about child murder

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[-] ModsAreCopsACAB@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  • One of them is a stereotype based on ignorance and racism.

  • The other one is children getting shot at schools.

Funny how both of these things come from the US.

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Huh? Americans are like the most willing to admit their country is shit of like anywhere of the Lemmy audience.... America fucking sucks, sign American. I had some dude from Pakistan super mad at me for saying women are second class citizens there the other day. Apparently they treat women super well, according to that angry guy anyway. I'm still pretty sure they don't.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

As always, these things can't be generalised. Every country has people that talk about their own problems, and every country has "patriots" that will deny anything is happening. There are just a lot of Americans on the internet, so people notice those who relentlessly praise America more.

After all, few countries literally ingrain "[country] exceptionalism" into their population in their school system. Many Americans, while thinking they are pointing out problems, still say "but it's still better than almost any other country at X".

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[-] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Americans when literally anything

THIS IS BULLSHIT!!! YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT!!!

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[-] MrWafflesNBacon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I'm American and I can confirm this is true

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[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago

Uh, what? I live here and I shit on it all the time.

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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago

American folks want to poke fun at other countries? I say no problem, break a leg! Actually please don't because it'd probably bankrupt you.

[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago

A culturally relevant joke at our expense that still has class? See guys, it IS possible. You, in fact, CAN make fun of America without going "lol your children get shot lol".

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[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago

I haven't encountered Americans getting mad over that but what I have encountered is them thinking everything involves the US, especially lately. For example people claiming the Ukraine - Russia war is a proxy war between the US and Russia instead or that NATO = US. Like chill, your country is not relevant to everything in the world.

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[-] Matthew@programming.dev 34 points 1 year ago

This is the case for every country. You just see it with the US a lot more since it of course has the biggest footprint on the English-language side of the internet.

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[-] Bluehood380@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Wait I thought we hated ourselves?

[-] spiderjuzce@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 year ago

Yeah I thought it was mostly other Americans saying these things

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Wait, I thought the whole world is America

[-] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 32 points 1 year ago

National boundaries just divide workers to obscure the fact that they have more in common with each other than with the ruling classes.

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[-] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 year ago

As a european, this applies to both sides lol

[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 14 points 1 year ago

as a southamerican I remind you that there are more than two sides.

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[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

It usually doesn't bother me unless it's something like this

American- criticizes something foreign

Every single reply to that comment- "School shootings!! Hahaha!! Dead kids!!! Hehehehe!!"

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[-] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

As an American you can make fun of America all you want. It sucks here.

The only Europeans I’ve had a problem with are the Danes. They have absolutely no sense of humor.

Or was it the Swedes? I don’t know. I mean they’re right there together. They’re basically the same people right?

Hehehehehehe

[-] InputZero@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

There are only two types of people I hate. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.

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[-] MartinXYZ@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

First of all: How dare You!?

They have absolutely no sense of humor. Or was it the Swedes?

It's definitely the Swedes.

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[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As others have said, we often make fun of ourselves. On these platforms, the liberal side of America is very vocal about the conservative side of America. Healthcare, guns, cost of living, etc. are something we're constantly being made fun of (often from ourselves).

If you've experienced pushback, it's likely because it gets stale as a subject. We know our country has problem; most of us feel powerless to change it.

Maybe that's what happens when you have this much diversity in a country. We're not like the French who can all unify and protest when needed.

edit: Rereading this, it makes it sound like I think diversity is a bad thing. Didn't mean to imply that, its just that we're so different its harder to unify.

[-] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I'll just say that I've had different experiences for the most part.

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[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

Americans do a lot of stupid things, but they are most likely to be self critical in this space. I think this meme should talk about Western Europe instead, because they have many problems, but they are so often never willing to accept criticism. They're quick to call the US racist, but in my experience, Europe has so much racism it's crazy it's viewed as this anti racist place.

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[-] Zink@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago

If you think some of us from the USA are bad about assuming we are the center of the world and that everybody we speak to online is from the US… you should see some of the people we live with!

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 13 points 1 year ago

I met a Midwest chick on a plane who said she didn't believe other countries existed.

I'm still not sure if she was dumb, crazy, or a pathological liar.

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[-] yokonzo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Bruh who you talkin bout I don't give a shit about this fucked up country

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[-] FrostKing@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I think it's definitely true that Americans get defensive when you criticize the US. I also think it's true that a huge reason for that, is because the only thing the internet seems to enjoy doing at the moment is complain about the US—no one likes to hear their country that they're living happily in trashed on constantly.

And I say that as someone who deeply enjoys complaining about the US

[-] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

There is a % of people in every country no matter what, trash talk and think their country is the best. They are often closed minded and ironically the type of person that others like them in other counties talk trash about. Best not to stoop down and let that % do what they are gonna do.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Lol, what? You can make fun of us. We're pretty fucking funny... But like, in a sad, defeated kind of way... Like, we're sleeping in the gutter and pretending we're fine, but at least we are looking at all those stars.

We don't need to move. This is fine. We're fine. Fuck off, we're fine. You can't help us, anyway.

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[-] Ignacio@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

That's exactly what happens to me when I tell them America is a continent. Like, WTF?

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