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Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) introduced a resolution to ban transgender women from using female bathrooms in the Capitol, citing “women’s rights” and opposing the “radical left.”

The move comes ahead of Rep.-elect Sarah McBride (D-Del.), the first openly transgender member of Congress, taking office.

McBride criticized the measure as a divisive distraction from real issues like housing and healthcare costs.

LGBTQ advocates condemned the resolution as discriminatory, aligning it with broader Republican anti-trans policies emphasized in their platform and political ads.

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[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 hours ago

What an absolute piece of shit.

Like every word she speaks is TERF propaganda, which she recognizes: She Twitted "Full TERF".

She says "He is a biological man. End of. Period."

She makes a point that she is not willing to discuss or find common ground by any criteria (not even the safety and dignity of trans women themselves).

This is a savage and barbaric, blatant display of bigotry and hatred, a disgusting outlook for any human, and totally unworthy of respect in decent society.

Thoughts out to Sarah Mac Bride that has to face this and still keeps her cool.

To me banning transgender use of public spaces and bathrooms should be listed as a hate crime and be heavily fined.

I hope her motion is rejected, she should be ashamed of her ridiculous self.

[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

I think I rarely see the so-called disgust reflex in full throttle, as I see it in terfs attacking trans women. They are literally acting like a five-inch cockroach is climbing up their ankle, and they can't help it. There is no amount of TERFism propaganda that can do that, they just must be the most homophobic people in existence, on par with people who flat out murder trans women. No doubt about it, they dehumanize trans women and would mass murder them with not a shed of remorse. Fuck TERFs, really.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 41 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus fucking Christ. This reminds me of "Whites Only" bathrooms and water fountains. It's nothing more than trying to dehumanize people by attacking their basic needs.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago

it's one to one the same thing. they just moved the target. the so-called arguments about safety and purity are exactly the same.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

They really want to ensure none of us attempt to enter government again

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 28 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

So women should use the mens bathroom? Is that what they are getting at?

How are they going to enforce it?

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There's lots of armed guards at the capitol

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Yes but what are they enforcing? If you have a dick you go in the mens room, or if you were born with a dick you go in the mens room? And what are you using to verify the status of said dick? It's all dumb. You go into a bathroom and you shut the latch. If someone is crawling under stall doors and peaking/harrassing someone they should be outed and charged no matter what the gender/sex/bathroom they are in.

If a man was crawling under my stall in the mens room, I would want him charged as well. It's stupid to think gender matters there somehow.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

They know who the trans legislator is. This is a specific personal attack

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I think we know the sex and gender of every rep, no? Its a finite population that doesn't change often.

In this case its a woman who is openly trans, so we know their gender assigned at birth is male. I dont see any need to lift her skirt to enforce this law, if passed.

Also if you think that fascists have no issue with harrasing people, you have no grasp on how bad things are about to get..

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Nah I just don't think they could agree they would want someone with a cock in the women's room, which if they passed this law, it won't disappear immediately when a man who born a woman is required to use the women's room. They would be setting themselves up for that. I think a lot of it is inherently sexist, thinking women are weak so they couldn't handle themselves in a room without another man to protect them, or they are insecure and don't trust that they would not do whatever their jealousy is driving them to think. Notice it is rare to hear someone worried about women who transition to men using the mens room. If they were really worried about who they consider women, they would be worried about them being taken advantage of in the mens room as well.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

It seems to apply to the entire capitol groups, so it would apply to everyone visiting the capitol. I hope a group of trans men arranges a never-ending parade of trans men using the women's restrooms at the capitol.

[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 hours ago

Male janitors walk all the time into women bathrooms. No one gives a shit.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

I say replace all the bathrooms with genderless-only ones. You can't use them if you have any gender, sorry.

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Are they also banning transgender men from male bathrooms?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There's aren't any (out) trans men in Congress, so no.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The measure would prohibit any lawmakers and House employees from “using single-sex facilities other than those corresponding to their biological sex.”

So yes

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Ah, okay, they covered their bases. But conservatives forget trans men exist all the time, so it's probably an afterthought.

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 26 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I know representation is important. But why do the Karen's get a disproportionate amount?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Because the US is disproportionately made up of Karens.

[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 9 points 6 hours ago

Because they are loud, and reasonable people are not. When the reasonable people get loud they shut up when reasonable critiques are made. At some point the reasonable people have to become unreasonable (by degree) so they can be heard.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

Believe it or not, they speak for their constituents.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Here it begins

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 71 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The party of Identity politics.

People seem to think the Dems are so pro-trans when they don't really do anything. Republicans just come up with random ways to make trans people's lives more difficult for no reason.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 53 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Hurting people is the reason.

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 6 points 6 hours ago

deadbeef79000 gets it.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 49 points 14 hours ago

That's pretty rich coming from the party that supports people taking a dump on Capitol desks.

[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 56 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

citing “women’s rights” and opposing the “radical left.”

You can expect this to be the template for when they want to pass anything.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 39 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

This is how you end up with genderless bathrooms.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 20 points 12 hours ago

That seems like the more reasonable answer

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 27 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

honestly, that would be awesome. completely private stalls. a common area to wash hands or whatever.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 hours ago

No no. I think it was the Stockholm airport, for example. Each private stall had a loo and sink and like 1/2 gaps at the bottom; perhaps in case of flooding. It was the private spa of airport bathrooms.

My family there says it's less about protecting people of different attributes from our own : they just can't be arsed to delineate when it makes no difference and costs more to maintain.

Mix the bathrooms, ensure individual privacy, and everybody still poops.

[–] salvaria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 8 hours ago

I was at a bar that did this. Each toilet in its own little room (no stalls with gaps along the floor and doors). Besides a little initial confusion to make sure I wasn't walking into the wrong restroom, it was perfectly fine.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 99 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Huh, will this give us CHEAPER EGGS? What about the BACON?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

oh she's getting some pork, alright.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

According to conservatives, yes.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 51 points 16 hours ago

Glad to see she’s really focused on fixing the economy.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 59 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry Nancy. Just like all of the straight men out there, trans women don't want to touch you either.

You don't have to introduce legislature protecting yourself from non-existent threats.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The patriot act says hi.

Along with like.... Half the shift from 2001-2005.

And if we keep going we will be here all day.

[–] chase_what_matters@lemmy.world 32 points 16 hours ago (4 children)
[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 23 points 9 hours ago

Given that there will be only one openly trans member of Congress, you can assume any time she goes to the restroom some Republican will report on which bathroom she goes into.

Nobody is as concerned with other people's genitals as conservatives.

And they'll cite all the fines that shitgibbon from Georgia got for not wearing a mask and trying to bring guns into Congress as proof they can.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 9 points 12 hours ago

By vibe. If you’re passable you’re fine, if you don’t visibly match your gender presentation well enough, jail

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 5 hours ago

The capitol has a lot of armed guards on staff

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago

They plan to set up a genital inspection booth in front of the restrooms where a eunuch will examine all persons wishing to use the restroom.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 5 hours ago

Are there family bathrooms at the capitol at least?

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 25 points 17 hours ago